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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 8, 2016 11:25 AM CST
I just read that hollyhock and Lupine take a year from sedan to plant...to flower.

What are these plants called? And what are any others?

Thank you

-Brenden
Brenden
Name: Tom Cagle
SE-OH (Zone 6a)
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Coppice
Jun 8, 2016 12:09 PM CST
read up on wintersowing and cold-stratification. Many seeds only germinate when they think it is spring.
Name: woofie
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woofie
Jun 8, 2016 6:17 PM CST
They are called biennials if they don't bloom till the second year. However, I've had hollyhocks bloom the first year if started early enough in the greenhouse. And the same for lupines.
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Name: Daisy
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DaisyI
Jun 8, 2016 7:19 PM CST
Biennials live two years: the first year spent growing a plant, the second year blooming and growing seeds. Then it dies. Lupines are perennial but some perennials take two years to mature to bloom size. Hollyhocks are perennial or biennial, depending upon the strain.

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Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 8, 2016 7:31 PM CST
Ok, so flowering onion blooms every other year. It dies then?

I know about stratification already,

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Name: Daisy
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DaisyI
Jun 8, 2016 7:41 PM CST
Onions are in the Amaryllis family, whose members are mostly perennial, including onions. Smiling
Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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krobra
Jun 8, 2016 7:44 PM CST
not all biennials die after their second year

I have a hollyhock that is on it's 3rd year blooming

Thumb of 2016-06-09/krobra/4b660e

the tall one is the 4 year old , the other two shorter ones will be their first year blooming



Name: Jay
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Horntoad
Jun 8, 2016 7:47 PM CST
krobra said:not all biennials die after their second year

I have a hollyhock that is on it's 3rd year blooming

Thumb of 2016-06-09/krobra/4b660e

the tall one is the 4 year old , the other two shorter ones will be their first year blooming




Daisy said "Hollyhocks are perennial or biennial, depending upon the strain."

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Name: Kurt
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krobra
Jun 8, 2016 8:04 PM CST
I guess I did miss that part , Thank You! Jay and Daisy , good to know some are perennials.
mine were gifted seeds , so I am not sure exactly what cultivator they are.
I just kept hearing they were biennials on here and died after the 2nd year.
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 8, 2016 8:10 PM CST
So is my interpretation "biennials"
Have 2 meanings?
1. Plants that flower every other year
2. Plants that are grown from seed, take an entire year to flower.

Please pardon me if I'm not understanding.

And HELLO HORNTOAD!

You will be first to know if my hollyhock/okra/hibiscus crosses work.
Never got around to getting cotton though. DOH!

oh, and are there any plants that ARE true to seed? I general speaking.
Brenden
Name: woofie
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woofie
Jun 8, 2016 8:13 PM CST
I've heard the same, Kurt, everywhere I've looked. This is the first I've heard that some hollyhocks are perennial. Heh, and the Lupines I've tried to grow may have SUPPOSED to be perennial, but obviously they hate me and die after a couple of years. Hilarious!
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Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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krobra
Jun 8, 2016 8:50 PM CST
I am growing Standing Cypress/Ipomopsis rubra for the first time this year Brenden , I started it early and it is said to bloom it's first year if started early indoors , but it too is listed as a biennial.

Standing Cypress (Ipomopsis rubra)
Name: Brenden Reinhart
Flushing Michigan (Zone 6b)
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bhart90
Jun 8, 2016 8:54 PM CST
Odd, I hope it goes well hahA
Brenden
Name: Daisy
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Jun 8, 2016 11:15 PM CST
Sighing! Maybe this will help:

http://garden.org/courseweb/course2/week2/page4.htm
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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woofie
Jun 9, 2016 10:30 PM CST
Daisy, I'm curious. Can you give me an example from the database of a Hollyhock that is considered a perennial? Not arguing, just curious. I'm wondering if our database contains that information.
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Name: Kurt
Woodbridge , Va (Zone 7a)
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krobra
Jun 10, 2016 9:14 AM CST
not from our database woofie , but is listed as a perennial hollyhock on two sites

http://www.bluestoneperennials.com/HOBK.html?id=XCBBjZWy

http://www.perennialresource.com/encyclopedia/view/?plant=19...
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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woofie
Jun 10, 2016 9:48 AM CST
Ah. That second link does say that the Spotlight series is truly perennial, not biennial.
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