Views: 381, Replies: 5 » Jump to the end

Jun 21, 2016 6:33 AM CST
Live in Alamogordo, NM now...believe it is Zone 6A.
No lawn per say. Like to plant some veggies (probably raised containers), a few shrubs, a tree in the back yard. Think through rest of the planting will also be container
Need a few suggestions on what'also a few safe bushes and in ground shrubs to start with base on the average mean temp being about 95 from June through end of September.
The house sits on an East (front) West (back) configuration

Name: Bob
Vernon N.J. (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Plant Database Moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Heucheras Echinacea
Hellebores The WITWIT Badge Dog Lover Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Region: New Jersey Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Jun 21, 2016 7:00 PM CST
The NM map I looked at said zone 8A.
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Cat Lover Master Gardener: Florida Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Vegetable Grower Region: Florida
Herbs Orchids Birds Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Sages Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Jun 21, 2016 9:40 PM CST
Hi and welcome, Bobby. How's your water supply? It takes lots of water to grow vegetables and fruit so thinking about how much of a garden you can support with the water you have available is going to be important.

As you noted, your temperatures are awfully hot from now through September so not really the best time of year to be starting a garden, although you can think it out and plan it now. Planting? I'd wait until things cool off a bit. You can probably grow some things starting in the fall and harvest before frost.

Early spring would be the time to do your planting, although somethings like the shrubs your considering can probably be planted in the fall. Planting them now, you'd have to rig shade cloth over them, and stand over them with a hose every day. Brutal time of year to plant.

Have you considered growing your vegetables in something like Earth Boxes? They're certainly the most water-efficient way to grow things, and you can also control the soil temperature somewhat by buying light colored boxes and using the white side of the plastic covers. Take a look Even though I can grow a lot in the ground here in Florida, water is expensive and rain can be scarce through the winter so I grow in Earth Boxes.

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier
Jun 21, 2016 9:51 PM CST
Bob, I'm just guessing here, but if you are in NM the zone is warmer than a 6. If you are in an area with water rations that will affect your choices. you may also consider erecting some artificial shade. Maybe a pergola, some arches, umbrellas ect to offer shade to your plants. visiting some local nurseries will give you an idea of the trees you can grow in your area.
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Jun 22, 2016 4:49 PM CST
Trees and shrubs: I know nothing except this: if you dig a hole below grade and back-fill with improved soil, make sure that the lowest part of that hole has somewhere for water to drain DOWN and out through. If there is no porous soil under and around it, and no trench leading down and away from it, it will fill with water, turn your nice newly improved soil to mud, and drown every root, which kills every plant.

Thumb of 2016-06-22/RickCorey/520847

One way to irrigate without wasting water is a dripline or drip tape. They have drippers ("emitters", like 1/2 GPH or 1 GPH) every 6", 9" or 12", and rely on water spreading horizontally into a cone as it passes down through the root zone. They can often be run at very low pressures, especially if you pay for "pressure-compensating" emitters.

They are more efficient than sprayers because wind doesn't blow the water away, and it doesn't evaporate in the air and on the surface of the soil.

They discourage weeds because only a tiny spot on the surface of the soil gets wet. Any weed seeds more than an inch away from a drip emitter stay dry and don't sprout.

If you lay the dripline UNDER some mulch, UV doesn't corrode it, and NO water sits on the surface. It ALL goes down into the root zone.

Also, drippers UNDER mulch are invisible.

With containers, maybe 12" spacing would let you position the containers under the dripline's emitters. Or you could run 1/2 irrigation mainline around your containers, then run 1/4" tubing to each bucket, with individual drippers manually grafted into that 1/4" line. Then you can have drippers exactly where you want, and e4aisly put more than one dripper into some containers - or mix 1/2 GPH with 1 GPH and 2 GPH drippers.

Typically if I have a zone on mini-sprayers, I only run the water for 10-20 minutes. With dripline, I would have to run that zone for more than an hour. And I was always afraid that if I only used drippers, I would forget some day and waste a LOT of water. With sprayers, you can see and hear them.

[Last edited by RickCorey - Jun 22, 2016 5:48 PM (+)]
Give a thumbs up | Quote | Post #1190968 (5)
Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

Region: United States of America Deer Region: Florida Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Jun 22, 2016 5:18 PM CST
Hi bobbyb, Welcome!

Click here for the veggie planting calendar for your area; it tells what to plant in the spring and the fall:
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot! ~

« Homepage
« Back to the top
« Forums List
« Ask a Question forum
Only the members of the Members group may reply to this thread.

Member Login:



[ Join now ]

Today's site banner is by rocklady and is called "Fringe Tree"