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Ankara, Turkey (Zone 7a)
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Jun 30, 2016 6:45 PM CST

I planted a passionflower (Passiflora incarnata) last year, and it froze during the winter. As it did not come back as late as the middle of May, I assumed that it had died and planted a hardy kiwi (Actinidia arguta) in the same spot. But after a few weeks the passionflower resurrected!

Now the two plants are growing too closely (see the photo), and I am concerned that they will block each other's growth. On the other hand, I don't want to risk any of the plants by changing its location (the roots may have become intermingled already).

I will appreciate any advice on what I should do --leave them as they are or move one of them to another place.

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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Jun 30, 2016 7:00 PM CST
Personally I would just leave them. Its not as though they are crowding other plants, just eachother. You will be able to tell the fruit apart. Smiling

The bigger worry should be that kiwi are either male and female plants. To get fruit, you need one of each. The flowers are quite different (I grew the big brown fuzzy version when I lived in California) so you need to figure out which you have and add another. If you have a male, you could add 5 or 6 females. If you have a female, you can add a male. I used to take a blooming branch from my male plant and give it to my friend who only had a female plant. She would put it in a bucket of water upwind from her plant. Here is some more information on Hardy Kiwi:


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Ankara, Turkey (Zone 7a)
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Jul 1, 2016 5:43 AM CST
Thanks DaisyI for the reply and the tip. Actually I have one male and two female kiwis in my garden. I may plant a few more females later.

Any other thoughts?

Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Jul 1, 2016 7:37 AM CST
Fahte--Daisy is right about not moving. There is s strong possibility your passion vine given time will put roots out in and spread in different places in your garden that would be a more desirable spot. May joy and peace follow you!
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Name: Elaine
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Jul 1, 2016 11:48 AM CST
I agree not to move anything at this time of year. It's too hot and whichever plant was removed would most likely die.

If you still want to separate them you can wait until they go dormant in the fall, and then extract one from the spot to a better place cutting roots as needed (they will grow back). In the meantime, just "lead" them in opposite directions on the fence or wall behind, so they will both get sun. They will very likely need extra water and fertilizer due to the close company.

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Ankara, Turkey (Zone 7a)
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Jul 1, 2016 3:36 PM CST
Many thanks Altheabyanothername and dyzzypyxxy. So I will definitely not touch them --at least until winter!


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