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Jul 7, 2016 1:41 PM CST
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
For those of you who bag their cuttings, and have actually had success rooting them, tell me how you do this. What are the advantages of bagging? I am ready to do some experimentation. Whistling
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Jul 8, 2016 6:24 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Does no one bag their plumeria cuttings?
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Jul 8, 2016 9:59 AM CST
Name: Jeff
Hudson, Fla (Zone 9a)
Region: United States of America
I have read on it but never attempted to try...From reading i see people use either Perlite , Choir, Pumice,or Peat moss with perlite...
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Jul 8, 2016 10:02 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Why would you need to bag your Plumies Ken, your growing conditions are much better than most of us. But if you go to youtube there is a video upload there, just search there, bagging plumerias, interesting demo.
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Jul 8, 2016 10:17 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I don't know, Tarev. Just my need to try something different. That's how I learn and am able to give advice to folks who want to do something like bagging.

Thanks for the U-tube info. I will check it out. I have a dozen or do bagged in moist sphagnum moss, in the shade and warmth of a greenhouse. I'll see.
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Jul 8, 2016 10:21 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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I was just watching it, it is interesting, there is one using empty water bottles with holes, but I think it will be more difficult to remove the rooted cutting later.
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Jul 8, 2016 10:29 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I don't use the water-bottle technique. I just use zip-lock baggies, tapped to the base of the cutting. I might rot them all, but then again.............. Crossing Fingers!
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Jul 8, 2016 11:18 AM CST
Dickinson(South Houston), Texa (Zone 9a)
Drdawg,

I have used the bag rooting with success. I did it side by side with a cutting on standard pot and the bag method worked way better. The moisture trapped in the bag was just right amount of humidity it seemed. I have a word document that explains the process. I followed it to a T except I used standard MG potting soil with a little perlite, and painters tape instead of electrical. Is there a way to attached a word doc on here?
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Jul 8, 2016 11:21 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
The only way I know to do that (I'm computer-illiterate) is to copy that document and then simply paste it here.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Jul 8, 2016 11:43 AM CST
Dickinson(South Houston), Texa (Zone 9a)
It has pics and stuff as well. Private message me your email and I will send it to you.
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Jul 9, 2016 11:05 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I checked my first bagged cuttings for the first time yesterday, and low and behold, I already have rooting. They have been bagged for 13 days. Since it took so long to hear back from anyone on how to go about this bagging experiment, I did it differently. I used 100% moist, long-fibered sphagnum moss as my medium. These plants were cut on 6-20 and were bagged on 6-26. Leaving more medium-size leaves on these plants than I normally would did not seem to hinder their rooting. The cuttings in my typical 100% perlite have done absolutely nothing, and some were cut a month ago. Notice that I simply tied plastic-coated wire around the bag and moss, so this does allow some water vapor to escape. Subsequent bagging was done, still with moss, but I used painter's tape to seal the bag rather than the wire.

Of interest is what sunburn looks like. I made the mistake and left my cuttings out in the midday sun (for a single day) after they were first bagged. I knew better. Not having a leaf-canopy to protect their stems, cuttings will be very prone to sunburn. In fact, in my experience, mostly leafless cuttings (or potted plants) are about the only sort of plumeria that will sunburn. Generally, those rooted (and potted) plants will have that nice leaf-canopy, shading the stems from the harsh sun.

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drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Jul 9, 2016 6:33 PM CST
Name: Jeff
Hudson, Fla (Zone 9a)
Region: United States of America
Hey that's pretty neat Ken on the rooting in sphagnum Moss .. The roots look good and healthy....
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Jul 9, 2016 8:13 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
I will let those roots continue to increase for a few days, Jeff. I don't know whether the roots I see are of one cutting (probably) or more. I do want to separate the rooted cutting(s) from the non-rooted ones before all the roots grow and entangle sister-plants. Timing is helpful here. Many knowledgeable folks let the roots really grow and mature before planting but I do not. Once I see root development, in my eyes at least, there is simply no reason to let the roots develop much further. Get them potted, get the plant(s) in brighter light (not sun yet,) and begin low-dose fertilization. My theory is that when rooting starts, the cutting is ready for active growth, I don't care about leaf development or whether there are massive amounts of roots. I get them in potting soil and get them outside, though in lots of shade for a while. When they begin to really leaf-out, they can generally handle full or nearly full sun.
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Jul 10, 2016 4:37 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
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Good job! I am going to try that technique with my newest cutting off a broken plant. Is there instructions somewhere online?
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Jul 11, 2016 8:08 AM CST
Dickinson(South Houston), Texa (Zone 9a)
Here you go. I followed it to a T except I used standard MG potting soil with a little perlite, and painters tape instead of electrical.
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Jul 11, 2016 5:14 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
Foliage Fan Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tropicals Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Thanks for all the tips here @waterdawg19 and @drdawg. I took a little from you both. Here is my bagging experiment. I used the broken branch I found last week.

Having no coir, i used very wet sphagnum moss. I hope there is enough in there@drdawg? I didn't know what size bag. I used a gallon bag. But cinched it up good letting all the air out then tying it first with a bread tie then painter's tape on top. Overkill, right? Ha! Tha'ts me. It is not air tight. Is that okay? I folded over the rest of the bag fir further insulation. That was my own idea from what we did from a medical treatment when my DD was young. We held heat in with layers of plastic.

She sits in the shade with the late afternoon sun just around the corner.


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Jul 11, 2016 8:30 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Depending on whether I am doing a single or a bundle, I use either sandwich or quart bags.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Jul 11, 2016 9:08 PM CST
Name: Cheryl
North of Houston TX (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Greenhouse Plant Identifier Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Plumerias Ponds
Foliage Fan Enjoys or suffers hot summers Tropicals Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
I used a gallon baggie. Rolling on the floor laughing Oh well. OverKill-Cheryl, that's me.
Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love Truly, Laugh
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Jul 12, 2016 5:44 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
It shouldn't matter, Cheryl. "Whatever is handy" is what I always say. Thumbs up
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

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Mar 27, 2017 3:03 PM CST
Name: Mary
Glendale, Arizona (Zone 9b)
Region: Arizona Enjoys or suffers hot summers Seed Starter Roses Plumerias Morning Glories
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Wondering I'm all ears! what brand or type of sphagnum moss anyone uses for bagged cuttings and also if anyone has used coir what kind they use.
Thank You! in advance.
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