Lilies forum: Is this really Lilium 'Pizzazz'?

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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Jul 19, 2016 7:07 AM CST
I bought the Pizzazz bulb through our (Minnesota) North Star Lily Society in the fall of 2014. Year 2015 brought one bloom.
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So this year, it's blooming nicely on a very sturdy stalk and I suppose it is great that it already has 40% secondary flowers, but the inflorescence structure is awful!
Is this normal for Pizzazz?
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Name: Joe
Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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Joebass
Jul 19, 2016 5:44 PM CST
Rick my pizzazz is a juvenile too so I can't compare inflorescence but it looks to be the right bulb. Now I'm curious why you think that the structure is so bad. It looks like it can still mature.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Jul 19, 2016 7:16 PM CST
Yeah, that's what I am hoping for... that it will mature. But the only time I've ever seen secondary buds without a central stem on an Asian lily is when the lily grows flowers in an umbel. It's a trait breeders consider inferior, and I agree.
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Jul 19, 2016 7:50 PM CST

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The photo in the Lily Garden catalog shows a racemose inflorescence of 12+ buds and blooms, with secondaries.
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jul 20, 2016 8:48 PM CST
Well, look at this--what just jumped up out of nowhere. Looks like Pizzazz with a green reverse. Don't even ask how it got here. Then again, maybe it's a volunteer seedling that looks like Pizzazz. Shrug!
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Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Jul 20, 2016 10:01 PM CST

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Well don't think it looks like Pizzazz. Pizzazz has a significant orange star around the nectaries and darker red raised papillae.

Lily (Lilium 'Pizzazz')
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Jul 21, 2016 3:19 AM CST
Looks better than Pizzazz! (But that wouldn't be hard Rolling on the floor laughing ) Blinking
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jul 21, 2016 4:24 AM CST
Connie, yes, I see now. Well then, In could be an open pollenated volunteer hybrid from Silk Road. I'm holding about a dozen extra Silk Road in that corner. It came up near the base of one of them. Directly across and in the next row would be some of Johan Mak's OT X henryi crosses like Orange Henry and Peach Cobbler and they're fertile both ways also. So--stuff happens, I guess.
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Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 21, 2016 7:34 AM CST

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There is a sister seedling of Pizzazz that I like better called 'Sizzle' and it has the green reverse. I'll try to photograph it later today.
Tracey
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springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
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Frillylily
Jul 21, 2016 7:41 AM CST
I think @Joy has this, we'll see what she thinks
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Jul 21, 2016 8:21 AM CST
That little thing didn't come here as a tramp scale or hitchhiking bulblet. Those extra Silk Road planted there were from a 14 year old clump of Silk Road that I dug in Oct. 2013.
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 22, 2016 2:49 PM CST

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Here is Sizzle,

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I find it much more striking in the garden than Pizzazz, but that's just me. Whistling
Tracey
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 22, 2016 2:54 PM CST

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In contrast to Pizzazz...
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Tracey
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Jul 22, 2016 3:46 PM CST

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Thanks for the comparison, mags. I like the looks of Sizzle better too, though I don't grow it.
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Jul 22, 2016 5:31 PM CST
I have never seen any of them, but judging from your pictures, I fully agree with you Stacey and Connie. What a beauty!


Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Jul 22, 2016 7:45 PM CST
And apparently there is a 'Sister of Pizzazz'. What's the difference there, gals? I see you both entered pics into the data base.

Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 22, 2016 7:56 PM CST

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I think Sister of Pizzazz may have been have first been offered to the Regional Lily Societies, then later actually named Sizzle and named officially and sold through the regular Lily Garden catalog. I'll see if I can get to the bottom of this.
Tracey
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Jul 22, 2016 10:08 PM CST
'Sizzle' definitely nicer than 'Pizzazz'. nodding
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Jul 22, 2016 10:36 PM CST

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If Sizzle is the same as Sister of Pizzazz then I have it after all! The two are quite similar in pictures but I can't compare them side by side (since I didn't purchase Sizzle).

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