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Name: Daniel Erdy
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 19, 2016 1:03 PM CST
Will the larger Alliums like globemaster come true from seed?
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Name: Sandy B.
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Weedwhacker
Jul 19, 2016 7:46 PM CST
Some of the larger ones might, but Globemaster itself is a hybrid --

From JohnScheepers.com ( https://www.johnscheepers.com/ifalliumglobemaster ):

"A 1971 Jan Bijl hybrid developed by crossing A. macleanii Baker and A. albopilosum (aka A. christophii), Allium Globemaster is one of the longest flowering Allium since its flowers are sterile~they don't produce seeds. Depending on spring temperatures, it can flower up to five weeks with ever enlarging floral globes that maintain their stage presence as they die back into dried spidery orbs. If it is happy where it is, Globemaster will return for many years with an ever-increasing stem count. One of our clients reported that her Globemasters were so happy in her garden that they multiplied from 24 to 60 flowering stems in just 3 years. This happens because little baby bulbs, called offsets or bulblets, grow on the sides of the mother bulb's basal plate. If flowers start to diminish in size, it may be time to gently dig them up in the fall and replant the bulblets away from the mother bulb to give them all room to grow and thrive."
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 20, 2016 8:44 AM CST
Thanks Sandy, too bad the bulbs are so pricey Sad I was hoping to grow a few from seed and save a little cash. Maybe a member will have some for a few bucks in the classifieds this fall, I'll just have to keep my eye out. Thumbs up
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Weedwhacker
Jul 20, 2016 9:45 AM CST
I'd love to be able to grow them from seed, too! (At least now I know why I've never been able to collect seed from the ones I have... )
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Name: Daniel Erdy
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 20, 2016 11:51 AM CST
Has yours bloomed already this year?
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Weedwhacker
Jul 20, 2016 8:44 PM CST
ediblelandscapingsc said:Has yours bloomed already this year?


Yes -- they're just dried skeletons at this point! (but still pretty cool Smiling )

LOL, I have a "regular" onion that overwintered in the garden and started growing again in the spring, and bolted, with a (white) flowerhead nearly as large as Globemaster!
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 20, 2016 8:58 PM CST
I heard elephant garlic makes a big flower also. Thanks for all the great info Sandy I may have to break down and purchase some from a supplier. To my knowledge globemaster has the largest flower head is this correct?
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member Celebrating Gardening: 2015 I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped beta test the first seed swap Region: United States of America Region: Michigan
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Weedwhacker
Jul 20, 2016 9:53 PM CST
ediblelandscapingsc said: To my knowledge globemaster has the largest flower head is this correct?


Hmmm -- that I don't know. They're definitely big, though!



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Name: Jennifer
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jvdubb
Jul 21, 2016 8:25 AM CST
I started some allium from seed this year. NEVER again. Big pain in the butt. They are still tiny tiny silly little things. For me it is well worth the money to buy bulbs.
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Permaculture Sempervivums Hybridizer Xeriscape Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Bee Lover Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Herbs Region: United States of America
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ediblelandscapingsc
Jul 21, 2016 4:25 PM CST
Thanks for the info Jennifer Thumbs up
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