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dragnlaw
Jun 14, 2019 2:13 PM CST
Thanks guys.

OMG... horror story - just took them apart and it is awful! The roots on the orchids are completely dried out. Can;t believe they even bloomed, no wonder the buds died.

Do I soak them or something? I thought I saw that on youtube.

I don't have moss, only a bag of soil labeled for orchids. How big should the pot be to the size of the roots?
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BigBill
Jun 14, 2019 2:22 PM CST
Whatever you do, do not rely on You tube for growing orchids. Not until you get to know who has good advice. So much of what is posted there is by people who couldn't grow anything well if their lives depended on it. It is just too easy to make a video, post a video passing yourself off as an orchid grower.
A healthy dash of skepticism is always a good idea!
β€œThe only stupid question is the one that is never asked!”
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dragnlaw
Jun 14, 2019 2:24 PM CST
more questions - plastic or clay? Other than these two, most seem to come in a little plastic sleeve thing . Is that good for them?

My first orchid, I bought 4 years ago, blooms a lot but I want to re-pot as I think the roots are starting to go up instead of down. It is blooming right now, do I wait for it to finish?

I've been jumping around looking at various threads but never seem to land on the one I need. Thanks so much for helping me .
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dragnlaw
Jun 14, 2019 2:26 PM CST
BigBill said:Whatever you do, do not rely on You tube for growing orchids. Not until you get to know who has good advice. So much of what is posted there is by people who couldn't grow anything well if their lives depended on it. It is just too easy to make a video, post a video passing yourself off as an orchid grower.
A health dash of skepticism is always a good idea!


Thanks BigBill - LOL - my question remains, do I soak them first or just re-pot?
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup.
Name: Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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BigBill
Jun 14, 2019 2:32 PM CST
Hey, it is a pleasure.
If you are heavy with watering, use clay, if you tend to underwater use plastic. The Phalaenopsis will grow in either.
Use a smaller pot when you have very little live root. You choose a pot that will hold the root system snuggly yet comfortably. Never overpot.
Roots climbing out of the pot is natural. Don't trim them or repot because of that.
Phalaenopsis like to be repotted, they recover and grow roots within 2-3 months.
Never grow in double layer pots. Messes up the watering. Once in flower, you can enjoy them where ever you would like to. That is the time to use a decorative container to display it properly.
Use media appropriate for orchids, for bark mixture or an aliflor mixture. Meanwhile look through all of our orchid forums regarding the growing of orchids.
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Name: Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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BigBill
Jun 14, 2019 2:33 PM CST
If you have live roots, you can soak them.
β€œThe only stupid question is the one that is never asked!”
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dragnlaw
Jun 14, 2019 2:49 PM CST
Thanks... BigBill.... again!

Just opened the bag and it is actually a bark mixture. Am soaking the bark as per the instructions.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup.
Name: Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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BigBill
Jun 14, 2019 2:59 PM CST
Okay good luck.
β€œThe only stupid question is the one that is never asked!”
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BBQNBLUES
Jul 3, 2019 10:35 AM CST
I know many of you "turn your nose up" at Phals.. but I checked Kroger's mark-down cart today... Bought a Cute NOID mini Phal (still in bloom) with a healthy root system for $3.50. Tiny 1" burgundy & cream colored blooms.

Name: Bill
Livonia, Michigan (Zone 6a)
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BigBill
Jul 3, 2019 10:50 AM CST
I would BBQ because I want a plant with a name. I am always hoping to grow it well, have beautiful blooms and get an AOS award. But I think that I am in the vast minority here in that regard.

I realize fully that no name tag is 100% foolproof but it is better then no name at all.

If I was growing just flowers, I would still need a name tag. Correct or not, I would need a tag. Smiling
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sugarcane
Jul 3, 2019 11:33 AM CST
Glenn, I would never turn my nose up at any orchid.
I got my start here with rescue Phals. from Lowe's ( where I worked) .
After saving a couple hundred , I had the confidence to branch out to other plants. I've settled on Cattleya because they do well for me... and now in Florida it is almost impossible for me to keep a Phal. alive! The folks here on this forum held my hand and encouraged me all along the way , especially when I didn't live near any orchid societies. Just because you have a NOID plant, don't assume that everyone will turn their noses up at it. Those of us that show , generally don't have the room to keep too many plants without tags. We all want to see and share in your successes...so be sure to post flower photos on the monthly thread.


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Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Jul 3, 2019 11:56 AM CST

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I wouldn't turn my nose up at any Orchid either. I just don't have too many Phals, because I don't do that great with them in the long run. I can kill a noid just as fast as a nice, named Phal. Smiling
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Ted5310
Jul 4, 2019 7:48 PM CST
I love the look of Phals. But they look at me and die!! No nose turning here. Just can't seem to get one to grow and bloom. Too many other plants to keep trying to grow them
Name: Carol
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ctcarol
Jul 4, 2019 8:09 PM CST
I can't grow them outside. They are my only house plant.

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