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Apr 20, 2011 10:19 PM CST
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Here is Sedum lydium that I got from twit last year. This is such a tiny semp that is starting to take off this spring. The now photo (3/30/2011) would fit on a nickle and still show the part of the nickle.

As a baby start last year. -and now 3/30/2011.
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Apr 21, 2011 9:44 PM CST
Name: Terri
North Georgia zone 6b
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S. dasyphyllum "Lilac Mound"
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S. dasyphyllum var suendemanii
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S. apoleipon



I have another, it's labeled as S. album but it's tiny. So I need to figure out the variety or cultivar.
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Apr 22, 2011 12:04 AM CST
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That is the cultivar Terri. S. album is a species, a lovely one at that. : )
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Apr 22, 2011 7:32 AM CST
Name: cynthia wilhoite
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terri, those are are tooooo cute for words
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Apr 22, 2011 9:09 AM CST
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Okay, I'm awake now. Sticking tongue out
Terri it is so much fun to see up close their tiny leaves, the photos are awesome. How interesting the fuzzy leaves are on S. dasyphyllum var suendemanii. Very cute.

Here is a photo of my S. album taken last month.
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Apr 22, 2011 2:41 PM CST
Name: Terri
North Georgia zone 6b
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Ok I looked again. Really, I am so scatterbrained this week! The little leaved sedum is S. acre "Golden Carpet".

Yes the S. acre is the genus and species, but the name after is the "cultivar". Cultivar stands for "cultivated variety", sometimes if the plant is just a selection from nature, a geographically isolated type, a sport, or a mutation from a known Genus and species but is not widely cultivated it is just called a "variety". Sometimes you can have "forms", same Genus and species, but the plant appears slightly different. Sometimes these have been widely researched, sometimes not. Sometimes "forms" after more research fall into another species or new species. Sometimes they just have a different flower color or some minor deviation from the recognized species.

The sempervivums we most often discuss are Sempervivum tectorum "Cultivars" or Sempervivum arachnoideum "variety" or "Cultivar". Although to make this a bit more confusing there are I'm sure some interspecific crosses in the "Cultivars". For example: the plants I like with the "bloom" or glaucus look have been most likely interspecificly crossed (S. tectorum x S. calcareum) in their background at some point to move in the glaucus look. Cultivars which have the cilia or "hairs" are most likely products of having moved the cross S. tectorum x S. arachnoideum into their background at some point. Cultivars that are diminuative are most likely products of having crossed S. tectorum x S. montanum at some point.

Wow I got waaaay off topic there! *Blush*
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Apr 22, 2011 10:27 PM CST

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Terri, Also, hairs can come from crosses with the S. ciliosum species as well. Webbing is usually the result from crossing with the arach's but there are many ways that can manifest. The ciliosum are very attractive for that reason. There are a number of versions of ciliosum.

It's never off topic to educate, so don't apologize for doing it. We all have more to learn and learning new things is fun..
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Apr 22, 2011 11:01 PM CST
Name: Terri
North Georgia zone 6b
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twitcher said:Terri, Also, hairs can come from crosses with the S. ciliosum species as well. Webbing is usually the result from crossing with the arach's but there are many ways that can manifest. The ciliosum are very attractive for that reason. There are a number of versions of ciliosum.



You are, of course, completely right about the ciliosum in the crosses. I love learning about all that stuff.

I began to notice I had gotten way off of the topic of miniature sedums and panicked, thus the abrupt ending to my rambling. Thanks!
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Apr 23, 2011 12:21 AM CST
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I agree Learning is great fun, and is never off topic. Thumbs up
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Apr 26, 2011 4:13 PM CST
Name: BlueFox
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One of my favorite tiny Sedum is S. album faro form.

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and of course, I always come back to this little gem (Sedum pluricaule):

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Don't the blooms look like candy? Wonder what they would taste like...
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Apr 26, 2011 4:42 PM CST
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Now you have my mouth watering, and mine isn't even close to blooming. Glare
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Apr 28, 2011 10:33 AM CST
Name: BlueFox
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Mine isn't either Lynn! This little guy is deciduous, but even though it looks like dead sticks eventually the dead looking stems all sprout new leaves. It blooms in late August (that pic was Aug 25 10). Who knows what will happen this year, we seem to be about one month later than last year. Brr. I even put the fire on today, what's up with that?
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May 8, 2011 3:42 PM CST
Name: Terri
North Georgia zone 6b
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Angry An update on the S. dasyphyllum var. suendemanii plantlets emerging from the tiny leaves.... Gone!!! Poof! Either birds or slugs. I'm voting birds. Grumbling Glare
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May 8, 2011 4:12 PM CST
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Maybe even mice? I haven't had any trouble with the slugs on the sedum. And believe me we have enough slugs this year. : (
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May 8, 2011 7:37 PM CST
Name: Terri
North Georgia zone 6b
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I had wondered about mice... just figured surely they had more tasty snacks than sedum right now. But, perhaps they are tasty. When I send yours perhaps you'll snack on one or two and let us know! Rolling on the floor laughing
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May 8, 2011 8:49 PM CST
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Blinking But then I would no longer be a good Sedum mommy. Good mommies don't eat their sedum children. Whistling
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May 10, 2011 10:46 AM CST
Name: Chris
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Terri, bummer about your plant. Darn critters! Grumbling
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May 15, 2011 5:47 AM CST
Name: cynthia wilhoite
indianapolis in Zone 5
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terri, i think it's mice. last winter in my hoop houses the only thing the mice ate was the semps and sedums. i had never put any in the hoops before not only did the mice eat the tops but center stems too.
If you like i could send you a couple of cats to guard you beds.
morning to all.
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May 15, 2011 5:27 PM CST
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Hoop house cats. That is catchy. Whistling Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
My old kitty is falling down on the job this last year in the hunting department. That's okay, she has given me 15 good years of patrolling the gardens.
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May 16, 2011 2:33 PM CST
Name: BlueFox
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I've noticed a huge influx of chipmunks in my yard, now that Spook (Australian Shepherd mix) is 13. The old eyesight is going, hearing failing, so no go catching them. I guess I didn't realize how well she kept them under control...time to get a terrier...

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