Plant ID forum: Surprise Perennial after 2+ Years

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Name: Che Clark
Chicago, IL (western suburbs) (Zone 5b)
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Aug 3, 2016 9:17 PM CST
This has been quietly growing - but not flowering - for a couple years now in a partial sun area that was once much sunnier before nearby trees matured. Figured I would let it grow and see what happens. No idea what it is, though I see it in many beds in the area. Can anyone assist with ID? Thanks in advance!


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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 3, 2016 9:29 PM CST
Pretty, reminds me of Phlox:
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Name: Laurie Basler
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lauriebasler
Aug 4, 2016 12:30 AM CST
Hi Che, It looks exactly like Tobacco, or Nicotiana. An annual in my zone. But a wonderful plant.
Name: Jeanie
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foraygardengirl
Aug 4, 2016 6:04 AM CST
It is definitely a garden phlox. It would bloom more if you moved it to a sunnier area.
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Aug 4, 2016 7:33 AM CST
I vote for Phlox as well. Smiling
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 4, 2016 7:46 AM CST
It does also resemble Nicotiana but with the rounder petals, the blooms still look more like Phlox to me. Here's a photo of Nicotiana for comparison:
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Name: Jeanie
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foraygardengirl
Aug 4, 2016 10:31 AM CST
I agree it also looks like nicotiana, but the stem and leaf structure indicates phlox. This photo is a good representation of the stem and leaf:


If the plant has been around for a couple of years, it is likely a perennial unless it is an annual that self-seeds - which nicotiana does sometimes.

Che - can you comment or provide additional photos of your plant?
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Name: Che Clark
Chicago, IL (western suburbs) (Zone 5b)
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Aug 4, 2016 8:31 PM CST
All - great input. I will definitely provide more detailed photos. Eager to hear your additional thoughts.
Name: Danita
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Danita
Aug 5, 2016 2:11 AM CST
It is definitely a Phlox and definitely not Nicotiana. There are many indicators, but the most obvious is the shape of the stigmas. You can see some exposed pistils near the top of the photo. The stigma is split into 3 thin lobes. Nicotiana has a slightly bilobed stigma with more of a rounded, oval shape. Smiling
Name: Che Clark
Chicago, IL (western suburbs) (Zone 5b)
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Aug 5, 2016 12:18 PM CST
Few more pics for discussion.


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Thank You!
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Name: Jeanie
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foraygardengirl
Aug 6, 2016 9:38 AM CST
No question it is a phlox, specifically phlox paniculata.
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