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Aug 4, 2016 11:15 AM CST

I am working on getting to know my solidagos Smiling I think I have identified 3 *different* species...I'm guessing that 1, maybe 2, out of the 3 are S. juncea because they are flowering now ahead of any other Solidagos. I am in N. VA and have a list re: VA plant atlas as to which species I would find in my county. I have separated the first 3 from the list because I am fairly familiar with them and I don't *think* these are the ones I have in my photos.

Thanks for your help!

Solidago altissima L. var. altissima
Solidago caesia L. var. caesia
Solidago canadensis L. var. hargeri Fern.

Solidago erecta Pursh
Solidago flexicaulis L.
Solidago gigantea Ait.
Solidago hispida Muhl. ex Willd. var. hispida
Solidago juncea Ait.
Solidago nemoralis Ait. var. nemoralis
Solidago rugosa P. Mill.
Solidago rupestris Raf.
Solidago ulmifolia Muhl. ex Willd. var. ulmifolia


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Aug 4, 2016 2:20 PM CST
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Aug 4, 2016 2:52 PM CST

Thank-you Kent, I shall google this. I also have a ? about this forum....I posted 3 threads about 3 different species of Solidago. I put the same message in all 3 posts because the message was the same BUT the pics were quite different...i.e. as one would if one were trying to identify 3 different species of anything. I can't find 2 of those posts now....should I assume they were removed? It took me a VERY long time to get them up because I have an extremely bad internet connection....so I'm not going to repost but were they removed?
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Aug 4, 2016 2:57 PM CST
Name: Tara
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No they weren't removed. They were moved to the Perennials forum.

The plant is already known...Solidago...It's the variety in question...People that concentrate on Perennials, or frequent that forum, may not frequent this one, and may be able to help more. Thumbs up
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Aug 4, 2016 3:14 PM CST
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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
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No, they weren't removed, I can still see them by looking here: http://garden.org/users/posts....

Were all three of them originally in the Plant ID forum? Two of them are currently in the Perennials forum? Shrug!
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Aug 4, 2016 3:42 PM CST
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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Are the leaves scented?
Maybe compare with Solidago odora.
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Aug 4, 2016 3:42 PM CST

Thanks! I posted them all in the ID forum because I was trying to ID them. I would never have known to go to perennials.
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Aug 4, 2016 3:48 PM CST

Stone, actually I didn't smell them. Could be S. odora, but I usually go by the VA plant atlas as to which species are in my location because I certainly didn't introduce them and my neighbours would not be growing Solidago plants! S. odora is not listed in or around my county so I'm guessing that's not it. But I will take a sniff tomorrow Smiling Thanks for your input!
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Aug 4, 2016 4:59 PM CST
Name: Tara
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I suggested the change in thread thinking that more eyes here would see them and be able to help. Since we already knew they are Solidago...Now just searching variety...
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Aug 4, 2016 5:17 PM CST

Oh, ok. With all due respect and I could be completely wrong...so please forgive me if I'm overstepping....but the problem with moving the posts here is that these are not varieties, they are different species of Solidago and they are not growing in a garden, they in a meadow-gone-wild. This forum "seems" to be more ornamental in nature so I'm not sure that too many posters are going to know much about id'ing "wild" goldenrods. I posted a question awhile ago about id'ing Solidago species and I was instructed to post them on the plant ID forum because someone on that forum would be helpful in id'ing goldenrods! But maybe they'll visit this forum too?
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Aug 4, 2016 5:56 PM CST
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I think you are correct upat5, it makes more sense for these posts to be in the Plant ID forum. I can move them back, if you'd like?
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Aug 4, 2016 5:58 PM CST
Name: Tara
NE. FL. (Zone 9a)
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To my knowledge, plant ID forum is trying to ID the genus...i.e. Solidago... the genus. I thought that once the genus has been ID'ed, then the 'variety', 'cultivar', could be more recognized, by those who maybe grow these, or are more familiar with the different 'varieties'.
This was the only purpose of the change. As I said earlier, there are many more eyes here, that may not see/go to the Plant ID forum. Just trying to expand the view...to your query. Kind of "spreading it around"... Hoping to find answers you're looking for.
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Aug 4, 2016 6:05 PM CST
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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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The Plant ID forum is certainly not limited to identifying plants to genus. If we had a forum dedicated solely to goldenrods, it would make sense to move the posts there. But, of course, don't.

Also the Plant ID forum has more traffic, at least in terms of number of posts, than this forum so the more eyes thing seems unlikely.
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Aug 4, 2016 6:07 PM CST
Name: Tara
NE. FL. (Zone 9a)
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So maybe "Suggest a Change" is not such a great idea....And can cause confusion...Sorry, my bad.

Maybe also post this in wildflowers forum?

Get all the 'eyes' that you can. Post in all the forums that you feel it may associate to.
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Aug 4, 2016 6:51 PM CST

Tara,

I appreciate that you were trying to help and I think that sometimes it is necessary to move posts from one forum to another. However, in this case I have had some great help on the plant ID forum with plants that one might consider to be more wildflowers and/or "weedy" species so can I and my posts be moved back there? Please? Smiling
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Aug 4, 2016 6:55 PM CST
Name: Tara
NE. FL. (Zone 9a)
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I'm sure @KentPfeiffer can do that for you! My apologies. *Blush* I'll not "Suggest a Change" again. Good luck!
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Aug 5, 2016 8:51 AM CST

I think Stone got it! Leaves smell anise-y! So I'm going with Solidago odora! Thank-you Stone!
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