Plant ID forum: Mystery plant from the DIY store

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3mark
Aug 6, 2016 8:37 AM CST
This plant has been sitting at the DIY store for weeks. It had no price tag or barcode.

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As one of the staff members pointed out, you could smell the plant if you were close enough.

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The underside didn't look particularly good with all those dead leaves. I think it might have been overwatered, especially with all that recent rain.

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The staff, after confering for a while, concluded that it may be an indoor plant, put a price tag of $4.50 on it and called it a Crassula.

Is that correct? And if it is, there are so many plants with that name, a more detailed identification would be appreciated.
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JRsbugs
Aug 6, 2016 9:30 AM CST
$? Europe?

Probably or possibly Aeonium arboreum var. atropurpureum

http://www.cactus-art.biz/schede/AEONIUM/Aeonium_arboreum/Ae...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Aeonium+arboreum+var.+atro...
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Aug 6, 2016 9:34 AM CST
I agree and it will be a nice looking specimen when cleaned up. It's also a good buy for the size. Thumbs up Welcome! to NGA.
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jmorth
Aug 6, 2016 9:44 AM CST
Is this the same?
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These were for sale at Mobot (Missouri Botanical Garden in St Louis (gift shop).
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purpleinopp
Aug 6, 2016 10:45 AM CST
Looks like those are also Aeoniums, but possibly not exactly the same ones.

Someone put a lot of effort into this article on DG:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1058
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Baja_Costero
Aug 6, 2016 11:07 AM CST
It is close to impossible to come up with a firm ID for most random Aeoniums in cultivation, especially without observing the plant over the course of a season and seeing its flowers. I grow a couple dozen maybe and have proper names for only a handful.

Three things to bear in mind with Aeonium ID. First, they change dramatically over the course of their cycle of growth and rest, so any one plant will look different depending on the time of year (not to mention the exposure it is receiving). Second, they hybridize quite freely (and have self-seeded in my container garden), and many of the plants in cultivation are hybrids not species. Third, plants for sale are often dominated by named cultivars (eg. Zwartkop, Sunburst) rather than species.
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3mark
Aug 6, 2016 11:44 AM CST
Thank you!

So the staff were correct, it belongs to the Crassula family and it is an indoor plant (in this climate).

(and yes, I converted its price to dollars, to be clear)
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jmorth
Aug 6, 2016 11:56 AM CST
Thanks too @3mark for initiating thread.
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purpleinopp
Aug 6, 2016 11:58 AM CST
I just noticed about the price. That's a great bargain!

Loss of older leaves is normal as the trunk lignifies (turns woody,) and in regard to seasonal behavior that Baja was describing.
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3mark
Aug 7, 2016 11:53 AM CST
Went to the store again. It was still there so... Whistling

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Dead leaves removed from the pot and from the plant's underside, so to speak. Will have to be repotted as it is difficult to balance it at the moment and I presume the soil it is in might not be the best for it.
The bad news is that a small part of the plant broke off when I was carrying it.

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My question would be, could that part be planted along with the main plant?
If so, what should be done for it to have any chance of survival? How long can it lie on a shelf (indoors) like this?
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Baja_Costero
Aug 7, 2016 12:12 PM CST
You can root a cutting if you want. Cut the exposed stem back to half an inch or so (use a knife for a clean edge), let it heal for a couple of days in the shade, and poke that part into the soil so it (but not the rosette) is buried. Within a few weeks, there will be a visible change in appearance of the rosette, and that's when you know that it has started elaborating roots. You have about a 100% chance of success doing this with most Aeoniums, if you do it right.

Bear in mind that summer is the season of rest for Aeoniums, which means they will not root well or grow much until the fall. A certain amount of patience is required in this regard. Another thing which will become important in the lower light of fall and early winter is that these plants demand bright light indoors, especially during their period of active growth. Bright light is also important for the growth and good form of the cutting you are interested in rooting. That would mean hours of indoor sun, probably your sunniest windowsill.
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