Daylilies forum: Bud Builder Questions

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Name: Heidi
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mom2cjemma
Aug 7, 2016 7:23 AM CST
I bought a new daylily yesterday "Apple Crisp." It was a rather large and well maintained plant (5-6 fans) which had 3 or 4 scapes on it, 2 which are still blooming.

Looking at the spent scapes as well as the 2 that are still blooming, this plant is a bud builder. It isn't registered as one though. This cultivar was registered in the early 1980's.

So my question is, was "Bud Builder" a term that was even used or recognized in the early 1980's??
Heidi
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Aug 7, 2016 9:28 AM CST
I'm not sure when the term was first used, I'll try and find out unless someone else knows. But having said that, bud building isn't a term used separately in registration. A few hybridizers have incorporated it into the colour description however but there's no requirement to mention it.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Aug 7, 2016 9:54 AM CST
Yes it was a term used before the 1980s. There's an article in the Daylily Journal of Spring 1979 about bud builders mentioning it was not a new phenomenon. The article says 'Ollalie Gold Rim' was reputed to have produced 96 blooms on a single scape. The following are listed as bud builders in the article:

Ollalie All Summer
Texas All Summer
Angel Unawares
Charbonier
Red Siren
Song of Hiawatha
Lone Eagle
Exalted Ruler
Brave World
Carolidawn
Extra Special
Gloria Ritchie
Hudson Valley
Lusty Leland
Jewel of Hearts
Secret Lyric
Vestal Beauty
Name: Judy
Louisiana (Zone 9b)
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judydu2
Aug 7, 2016 10:53 AM CST
sooby said:Yes it was a term used before the 1980s. There's an article in the Daylily Journal of Spring 1979 about bud builders mentioning it was not a new phenomenon. The article says 'Ollalie Gold Rim' was reputed to have produced 96 blooms on a single scape. The following are listed as bud builders in the article:

Ollalie All Summer
Texas All Summer
Angel Unawares
Charbonier
Red Siren
Song of Hiawatha
Lone Eagle
Exalted Ruler
Brave World
Carolidawn
Extra Special
Gloria Ritchie
Hudson Valley
Lusty Leland
Jewel of Hearts
Secret Lyric
Vestal Beauty


Thank you for the time you took to look it up. Thank You!

Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Aug 7, 2016 11:20 AM CST
I tip my hat to you. Having all the journals online going back for decades on the AHS members' Portal and indexed makes it a lot easier than searching through the printed ones, which I only have back to the mid-90s except for a few scattered ones before that!
Name: Heidi
CT (Zone 5b)
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mom2cjemma
Aug 8, 2016 6:56 PM CST
Thank you for your feedback.

So the take away is that the AHS database may or may not list a daylily as a budbuilder, but just because they don't doesn't mean that it isn't?????
Heidi
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Aug 8, 2016 7:05 PM CST
Correct. The only way I know of to search for them in the AHS database is to type bud builder into the search box on the AHS home page. Doing that yields only six cultivars, where the hybridizer had volunteered "bud builder" in the flower description.
Name: Mary
Jersey City, NJ (Zone 7b)
MaryMills1
Jul 12, 2020 6:49 PM CST
What the heck is a bud builder?
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jul 12, 2020 7:22 PM CST
MaryMills1 said:What the heck is a bud builder?


See:
https://daylilies.org/daylily-...
Name: Heidi
CT (Zone 5b)
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mom2cjemma
Jul 12, 2020 7:44 PM CST
Interesting that this thread came up today. I have a very very simple but pretty seedling that is a deep maroon and I think it is possibly going to be a bud builder. Drooling
Heidi
Name: Tim
West Chicago, IL (Zone 5a)
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Lyshack
Jul 12, 2020 9:26 PM CST
I love bud builders.

Here in the tundra, if we a plant to bloom a long time or late, we need to rely on a much smaller subset of reblooming daylilies or Very Late daylilies, which are nice, but tend to be simpler forms and colors.

In the south, I think a grower might prefer a pretty rebloomer. But up here... if I can get a plant to bloom hard for 4 weeks and bud build for another two or three weeks, I'm pretty excited about that. ...because those fancy Evergreen rebloomers don't do it here.

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