Plant Database forum: what is the best term or phrase for a spring ephemeral?

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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Oct 12, 2011 7:06 PM CST

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Wayyy off topic but what is the best term or phrase for a spring ephemeral like dafs, tulips, ... or maybe summer ephemeral like some Allium. Should this be a preset choice?

oops, thought I was posting this in an existing thread.
Evan
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Oct 13, 2011 7:08 AM CST

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You had posted this under a thread about something else. A new question should make a new thread so we keep things organized.

I think "bulb" is the right category for the plant types you mentioned.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Oct 13, 2011 12:41 PM CST

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Thanks Dave, is this somehow automated? Amazing. Is that part of an algorithm?

What I'm getting at is some bulbs have short lived leaves while others, like Crocosmia, have leaves that enhance the garden throughout the growing seasons. I don't know the comparative numbers but wouldn't that be a useful data choice under Leaves?
Evan
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Oct 13, 2011 1:41 PM CST

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It's not automated. A moderator of a forum can split a post off from one thread into its own new thread.

Your short-lived leaves information would indeed be useful. We have an "Other" field under Leaves where you can type whatever you wish. We can either use that for this, or I can add another checkbox for this information. If we did the latter would "Spring ephemeral" under "Leaves" be clear enough?

The issue I see is that "Spring ephemeral" refers to all aerial parts, not just leaves. So it's more of a "habit" or "life cycle" (not sure which)
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
Oct 13, 2011 3:17 PM CST

Plants Admin

Once again beyond my pay grade. I don't know the best terms and I hadn't NOTICED/REMEMBERED -other-., which could work. You guys tell me what to do and I'm off to the races.
Evan
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Oct 13, 2011 3:19 PM CST

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I'll add Ephemeral under Leaves and we'll use that for now. If anybody in the future gets really picky about it, we can change it.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Oct 13, 2011 3:19 PM CST

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It's added!
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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eclayne
Oct 13, 2011 3:36 PM CST

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Thumbs up
Evan

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