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Name: Lee Anne Stark
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threegardeners
Aug 28, 2016 2:55 PM CST
Hey everybody.
We keep geese and pigeons.
Today I saw a rat in the garage.
We feed the birds, chipmunks and squirrels...also have a couple of hawks.

How can I get rid of the rats without harming any other wildlife?
I do know of a poison I can put out that only rats will eat, but I don't want him running out to the field to be caught by the hawk and end up poisoning the hawk.

Any advice greatly appreciated!
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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gardengus
Aug 28, 2016 3:05 PM CST
There are humane traps (live) but you then have to dispose of the creature your self.
Just about anything I can think of would harm your chipmunks , they are same size and very curious.
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Name: Tara
NE, Florida (Zone 9a)
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terrafirma
Aug 28, 2016 3:22 PM CST
We use sticky traps...Kinda, probably what Cinda is speaking of...We had one trap disappear! I would imagine the little guy ran off...Trap and all...
Name: Rita
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Newyorkrita
Aug 28, 2016 3:36 PM CST
How about the old fashioned snap traps? No poisoning involved.
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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gardengus
Aug 28, 2016 4:24 PM CST
What bait would Rats want that chipmunks not want?
Do chippies eat cheese?
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Name: Rita
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Newyorkrita
Aug 28, 2016 4:26 PM CST
Humm, don't know if they eat cheese. The chipmunk here eats seeds and nuts. But then it also eats some of my ripe tomatoes.
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
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threegardeners
Aug 28, 2016 5:03 PM CST
The snap traps would get the chippers too I think...I don't know what I could put on them that only the rats would want...do chippers eat tuna you think?
Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Aug 28, 2016 5:12 PM CST
The important thing is that rats are nocturnal for the most part, and chipmunks are out in the daytime exclusively. So if you can put out traps at night, and whisk them in first thing in the morning you should catch only rats. Baiting with peanut butter works really well for us. I'm a night owl, and put the traps out when it gets dark, about 8pm here. Then I collect them before I go to sleep at midnight if my husband is out of town - he's the early riser of the two of us. Still, I do catch a rat or two most nights. They come to our bird feeders . . doesn't everybody??

Yes, please don't put out poison unless you can be sure to contain the poisoned rats! My daughter's cat ate a poisoned mouse and almost died - twice! We still can't find out who is putting out the poison but it's sure an irresponsible way to go about getting rid of rats. Her cats are now confined to indoors, sadly.
Elaine

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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Aug 28, 2016 9:18 PM CST
Rats will eat meat; I don't think chipmunks will.
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Name: stone
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stone
Aug 29, 2016 10:54 AM CST
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A squirrel trap works wonders.
I catch both mice and rats in mine.
Bait with peanut butter, or carrots.
If catch non-target animal, set free, if rat or other pest, drown in fish pond, feed to cat.
Name: Rita
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Newyorkrita
Aug 29, 2016 3:44 PM CST
stone said:Thumb of 2016-08-29/stone/22048e
A squirrel trap works wonders.
I catch both mice and rats in mine.
Bait with peanut butter, or carrots.
If catch non-target animal, set free, if rat or other pest, drown in fish pond, feed to cat.


Now that is an excellent idea.
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
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threegardeners
Aug 29, 2016 6:09 PM CST
That's what we've decided to get...a live trap. If it's a rat though we'll poison it in the trap and safely dispose of the carcass.

Thanks everybody!
Name: stone
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stone
Aug 30, 2016 4:05 PM CST
Not sure how you are gonna get a trapped rat to eat poison...

Easier to toss the trap in a pond or something.

My fish pond started out as a bit of sheet plastic lining a hole in the sand... eventually I invested in an actual liner.
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Brockville, Ontario, Canada (Zone 5a)
Perpetually happy!
Forum moderator Tip Photographer I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Critters Allowed Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Keeps Goats Keeper of Poultry Frogs and Toads Charter ATP Member Region: Canadian
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threegardeners
Aug 30, 2016 4:26 PM CST
I can't toss a live animal in to drown, we got some poison cubes they can't resist, it'll eat it.
Our first pond we used an old water bed liner....

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