Gardening Gold: Corn meal or flour as a possible substitute?

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By crawgarden
August 31, 2016

Use corn gluten for pre-emergence control.

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Name: Annie
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LysmachiaMoon
Aug 31, 2016 8:28 AM CST
Do you think plain old corn meal or corn flour (like you use for tortillas) could be used as a substitute? I'm thinking of using this corn gluten method on my vegetable garden, so on bare ground, not on lawn grass. What do you think? Worth a try?
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Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Aug 31, 2016 9:38 AM CST
LysmachiaMoon said:Do you think plain old corn meal or corn flour (like you use for tortillas) could be used as a substitute? I'm thinking of using this corn gluten method on my vegetable garden, so on bare ground, not on lawn grass. What do you think? Worth a try?


Annie, I honestly do not know, you could always try it in a small area as a test.

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gardengus
Aug 31, 2016 2:58 PM CST
The corn meal you buy at the grocery store is not the same product
unless you purchase Whole ground cornmeal
The other stuff lacks the outer shell and is mostly composed of the starchy inside , lacking in the most effective parts.

Personally: I would not waste my time and a whole ''weed season'' on the wrong thing.
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Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
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LysmachiaMoon
Sep 1, 2016 11:15 AM CST
Thanks Cinda! I was thinking of doing a little experiment area in the veg, just to see if it had any effect. I think I can get whole ground cornmeal here....
The end is nothing, the journey is all.

Sly1
Sep 3, 2016 9:13 AM CST
I am not finding it in my area (Atlanta) and I would love to use it. I might have to use the whole corn meal too as a trial. Nothing to lose just a bit more nitrogen for my roses? ☺
Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
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LysmachiaMoon
Sep 3, 2016 1:51 PM CST
I checked at my grocery store today and the corn flour (the tortilla flour) definitely said "GLUTEN FREE" so that's not an option. The corn meal (Indian Head brand) said it was made from the whole kernel, so there's some gluten in it... I'm going to try sprinkling it on a small patch of dirt and see what happens. I'll keep you all posted of the results!
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Name: Evelyn
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evelyninthegarden
Feb 15, 2018 12:30 PM CST
Annie ~ Well, what was the result? I'm all ears!
I have 'Grape Expectations' for making progress in the gardens....
Name: Annie
Waynesboro, PA (Zone 6a)
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LysmachiaMoon
Feb 16, 2018 12:38 PM CST
I did not see much difference between no cornmeal and cornmeal, except where it was really thick (like a half inch) and at that point, it might as well have been any sort of mulch.... Anybody else try this? (Plus, the cornmeal color looks not so nice sprinkled all over the place...ants too.)
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Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Feb 16, 2018 3:18 PM CST
The corn gluten is a yellow/orange color, when it gets watered in the only sign of it can be a "kegger" smell for a few days. I had no problem with ants or other insects. The corn gluten works very well as a pre-emergent in my yard.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills - (Zone 8a)
Region: United States of America Region: California Annuals Bulbs Butterflies Cat Lover
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evelyninthegarden
Feb 18, 2018 12:11 PM CST
I put mulch on top of mine, as it was rather unattractive. Bright yellow, and then the cat wanted to eat it! I covered it quickly and watered it in.
I have 'Grape Expectations' for making progress in the gardens....

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