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Name: Leslie Chapin, SC (Zone 8a)              Lalambchop1 Sep 3, 2016 7:05 AM CST |
| I'm having slug and snail problems for the first time this year. They're on my hostas and daylilies. I have several large raised beds so buying the pre-made stuff you sprinkle around is too costly. Any suggestions? I posted this in the question forum but thought y'all might have some suggestions. Leslie As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15 |
Name: Larry Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)       Seedfork Sep 3, 2016 7:47 AM CST |
| I use a lot of mulch and compost so I provide an excellent hiding place for slugs and snails, but I have had pretty good luck using diluted ammonia with a pump sprayer. It does have to be repeated, but how often depends on the severity of the infestation and the weather. I usually gauge how often I spray by the number of slugs or snails I see, or by the damage to the plants I find. I don't think the ratio is really very specific, but I think some where around 10 to 15 parts water to one part ammonia, you might even dilute it more just trial and error mostly. I have sprayed it all over the plants and have seen no damage to them, I tell myself I am adding a little nitrogen to their diet as I kill the slugs and snails. I use the spray on the hostas and the daylilies. Maybe start out with a very diluted mix, spray some on a visible slug or snail and see how it reacts. I like to spray the entire plant and the soil beneath it to try and kill the eggs also. |
Name: Sue Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)          sooby Sep 3, 2016 8:26 AM CST |
| There are also some suggestions in the AHS daylily dictionary entry for slugs and snails: http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_d... Another thing is to avoid watering late in the day or evening because that prolongs the damp conditions that they (and fungal diseases) prefer. My grandfather in the UK used to use a tin can with beer and sink it into the ground so that the slugs that go after it fall in and can't get out. I've never tried it here - they don't have skunks in England  There might have been some inebriated hedghogs though...... |
Name: Rj Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)   crawgarden Sep 3, 2016 8:34 AM CST |
| Mom use to place 2 inverted pots, that would fit inside each other throughout the garden, the slugs would crawl up between the sides of the clay pot for the cool and shade. Than you pick up the pots and dispose of the slugs. I have been lucky enough not to have to use it, not sure how effective, but my mom swore by it Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. |
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly" South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b) "The mountains are calling..."         Polymerous Sep 3, 2016 9:22 AM CST |
| They do crave cool and shade... earlier this year I was having some patio plants chewed to nothing, until I found some snails hanging on the reverse (shaded) side of a stone tile, which I had leaning up against another pot. I'm not sure how the slugs and snails would get up in between two inverted pots, though... the pots are presumably touching the ground all around, unless they were deliberately propped up on one side to allow access. A 'Premonition of Spring' - PCI time already?! |
Name: Larry Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b) Seedfork Sep 3, 2016 9:36 AM CST |
| I envisioned one taller pot on the bottom and one shorter pot on the top, the top pot being larger in diameter than the bottom one. Thus creating a shade like effect with a gap in between the pots. |
Name: Rj Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b) crawgarden Sep 3, 2016 10:25 AM CST |
Seedfork said:I envisioned one taller pot on the bottom and one shorter pot on the top, the top pot being larger in diameter than the bottom one. Thus creating a shade like effect with a gap in between the pots. Thats exactly it! Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. |
Name: Deborah midstate South Carolina (Zone 8a) Don't Sweat the Small Stuff!           Deebie Sep 3, 2016 10:44 AM CST |
Leslie, I saw that the above mentioned AHS article mentioned that slugs don't like oak leaf mulch. I don't remember where I read it, but I think that it is said that pine straw mulch also repels them. I use pine needle mulch, and I've never had slug problems. Maybe it does work. It's worth a try, as pine straw is inexpensive or free, if you have a friend or neighbor with pine trees.  |
Name: Leslie Chapin, SC (Zone 8a) Lalambchop1 Sep 3, 2016 11:02 AM CST |
Thanks everyone. I feel much better about my infestation. I'll try different things and see what works.  Leslie As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15 |
Name: Valerie Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)      touchofsky Sep 3, 2016 2:40 PM CST |
| If you don't want to give up your beer to slugs, I have used leftover coffee. Yeast, like cooking yeast added will really attract them, however, I have had them come to just the coffee. Apparently coffee is a neuro toxin for slugs, at least this is what I read and I found dead ones around the coffee. |
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly" South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b) "The mountains are calling..." Polymerous Sep 3, 2016 4:00 PM CST |
| Ah, the shorter pot on top of the taller but narrower one. NOW I understand! Doh! Interesting idea - I may have to give it a try! A 'Premonition of Spring' - PCI time already?! |
Name: Barbalee Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)  Barbalee Sep 4, 2016 8:51 AM CST |
| Beer traps got four snails last night. Many more to get! Avatar is 'Global Crossing' 04-20-2017 |
Name: Rj Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b) crawgarden Sep 4, 2016 3:08 PM CST |
A pic is worth a thousand words, use clay pots so that the distance between the small one leaves a small gap for the slugs to go between.   Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. |
Name: Barbalee Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b) Barbalee Sep 4, 2016 3:11 PM CST |
| Pictures are worth a thousand words, MJ! Now I get it for sure! Would it work on snails?? Avatar is 'Global Crossing' 04-20-2017 |
Name: Rj Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b) crawgarden Sep 4, 2016 3:25 PM CST |
| Not sure, can't hurt to try! Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. |
Name: Larry Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b) Seedfork Sep 4, 2016 5:07 PM CST |
| Well, darn. I had it just backwards. I was expecting just the opposite of that! How to they get in? Don't get the point of the small pot inside the big one, totally threw me for a loop. |
Name: Rj Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b) crawgarden Sep 4, 2016 5:10 PM CST |
| They were just placed in the garden on the soil or mulch, they didn't seem to have any issues getting in, don't imagine it would take much of a space for them to crawl in. I was always amazed how Palmetto bugs were able to get into my house in Fl. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. |
Name: Leslie Chapin, SC (Zone 8a) Lalambchop1 Sep 4, 2016 6:51 PM CST |
| Ain't that the truth! They can get in anywhere. Leslie As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15 |
Name: Ken East S.F. Bay Area (Zone 9a)  CaliFlowers Sep 4, 2016 8:07 PM CST |
| My usual method of snail and slug control is a late afternoon watering, followed by a 10:30 pm search-and-destroy mission. Use a headlamp, rubber gloves, and a bucket. Slugs are pretty slippery, so a piercing instrument will be useful. If you have earwigs disfiguring the segments of the flowers or destroying the pollen, take along a pair of hemostats for a quick grab-and-squeeze. This will really sharpen your skillz, because at the slightest disturbance, they'll run and drop to the ground for a quick escape. For the less squeamish who wonder why gloves are necessary—I don't remember the source or the particulars—I read that terrestrial mollusks commonly carry a nasty parasite that can cause big problems for humans. |
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly" South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b) "The mountains are calling..." Polymerous Sep 4, 2016 9:09 PM CST |
I used to do the night time Snail Patrol back at our old house. Flashlight, disposable gloves, and a gallon sized Ziploc bag were my tools of choice. (Apart from being squeamish, I too had some concerns about parasites (and what does that say about the safety of our fresh lettuce and herbs and green onions?  ).) But that yard had some scattered light from the street lights, even without using a flashlight (though, of course, you still needed one). (Nowadays, if I were still doing Snail Patrol, I would use one of my hiking headlamps. I didn't have one back then/there.)At the current house, it is too dark and creepy outside to do Snail Patrol, unless maybe right off of the patio. There are too many critters, no street lights (and not many yard lights) and I don't fancy a nocturnal encounter with the resident rats or raccoons. Not to mention that with the creek, it is definitely too mosquito-y, and I am more sensitive to their bites than most people. * Rustle * * Creak * * Snap * * HMMMMMMMM * I'm outta there and back inside! (Fortunately, the bird population here has been somewhat helpful in keeping the snail numbers down, and maybe also the slugs. I keep coming across empty or broken snail shells, and I know they weren't from Warp or me. We do have crows and scrub jays resident in the neighborhood, so one has to wonder. However one year we had a bird that kept knocking the little irrigation valve covers off (because snails like to hide down there below ground by the valves), leaving smashed snail shells nearby, and otherwise scattering the mulch around. I finally managed to spot what it was and (with my Audubon handbook) solve that mystery - it was a California Thrasher. http://www.audubon.org/field-g... ) A 'Premonition of Spring' - PCI time already?! |
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