Roses forum: Palatine roses for 2016/2017 season

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Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Sep 17, 2016 9:36 AM CST
I am asking members for a "wish list" of roses you would like Palatine's (grafted) to carry.
Here's my list:
Blue Bajou
Chrysler Imperial
Dainty Bess or something with red anthers
Distant Drums
French Lace
Mister Lincoln
Perle d' Or'
President Herbet Hoover
Rosie O'Donnell
Singin in the Rain
Stretch Johnson
Tom Brown or other russet colored rose
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Sep 17, 2016 10:18 AM CST
Blue For You
Airbrush
Liv Tyler
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Sep 17, 2016 11:58 AM CST

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I'll put in another vote for:

Rosie O'Donnell
Tom Brown
Blue for You
Airbrush

and I'll add some that Palatine has carried in the past, but didn't offer this year:

Julia's Rose
Susan Schneider
Las Vegas
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Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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csandt
Sep 17, 2016 1:18 PM CST
My wish list for Palatine:

A very healthy, yellow, disease-resistant rose with a very strong citrus fragrance or a sweet fragrance similar to that of 'Beverly' or 'Savanna' (not 'Julia Child' or 'Sunsprite' or any cultivars that smell like licorice).
Carol H. Sandt

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Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Sep 17, 2016 5:28 PM CST
I'll put a (third vote) in for Blue for You and Airbrush and second vote for Susan Schneider. How about Champagne Cocktail - anyone interested???
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Sep 17, 2016 5:33 PM CST

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I already have two Champagne Cocktails. It's a great rose.
Long Island, NY (Zone 6b)
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MargieNY
Sep 17, 2016 5:57 PM CST
Zuzu is yours an own root or grafted? Mine is an own root newly planted this Spring.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Sep 17, 2016 6:08 PM CST

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Both of mine are grafted and are more than 10 years old. I think they came from Pickering or Hortico (or one from each).
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Oct 5, 2016 2:14 PM CST

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I went ahead with my earlier plan of ordering only five and then adding more. I've added Karen Ann, Le Petit Prince, and Sunny Sky.

Karen Ann didn't have a great picture on the Palatine site, but the HMF photos are divine!

http://www.helpmefind.com/gard...

Le Petit Prince is a duplicate of the Arctic Sky I bought from Ludwig's early this year. It's still alive and healthy, but it hasn't grown even an inch since I planted it in March. Glare

Sunny Sky is supposed to be a very, very tall hybrid tea, according to some people who are growing it. It will be a good choice for the back of one spot in my garden that needs something tall and bright.
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Oct 5, 2016 4:04 PM CST
Those are gorgeous choices Zuzu! Le Petit Prince is a must for my next order. Sunny Sky is indeed tall, and resembles a climber in growth habit more than the typical hybrid tea. The foliage is the most substantial of any rose I've experienced, very leathery and feel almost like plastic. It is also extremely thorny. The blooms developed a pretty blush as they age, assuming it does the same thing in your garden I think you'll really enjoy the color change.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Oct 8, 2016 1:13 PM CST
Palatine needs better pictures on several of their roses. I thought about sending them some I took in Kordes' garden where the plants were literally covered in blooms.
My photos are all on Google now and I have not figured out how to label or organize them. That's a project for a rainy day. soon, I hope.

Let's see if I can recall from memory what I ordered from Palatine this year... Whistling
1. Ascot not positive I really need this but it gets rave reviews.
2. Buxom Beauty Biggest bloom I have EVER seen!
3. Caramella Fairy Tale a replacement for one that outgrew its spot
4. Floral Fairy Tale
5. Golden Fairy Tale
6. Kosmos Fairy Tale a replacement for the one that I killed by moving it
7. Lion's Fairy Tale
8,9. Terra Cotta aka Crazy Love 2 of these to frame an arch
10. Le Petit Prince
11, Foxy Lady
12. Garden Delight
13 Harlekin
14. La Rose de Molinard
15. Papa Meilland
16. Quicksilver I may cancel this one since I got it from Northland. The Northland one is small and own root, though, and I know Palatine would send a good sized one that's more likely to thrive.
17. Siena Vigorosa
18. Sweet Beauty
19. Westerland a replacement for mine that is too big to move

I really want Polar Express, but something needs to fall off the list if I go back and add it.
I love the Fairy Tale roses, and I need to know for sure how large they really will get this time around, because i don't want to kill any more by trying to relocate them. Will Floral and Lion's FT really stay at 3-4'? Caramella and Kosmos were 7' tall and wide when I attempted to move them before. My Brothers Grimm is 6' tall and wide, and Pompomella and 1812 are at least 3' each way, maybe more. All are super healthy. I know they aren't related except by name, but the whole series is just excellent under any name.
Every rose on the list has a spot set aside for it except for Ascot. Should I keep it?
I've changed my order twice and hate to bother Palatine by changing it again...although they don't seem to mind me adding more Lovey dubby
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Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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CindiKS
Nov 14, 2016 3:38 PM CST
Palatine starts shipping this week! It seems so early, mainly because it has stayed warm here. I'm still gardening in shorts. We've taken out 3 trees in preparation for the new roses. I'm making collars to fill with soil and mulch to protect the new roses and some of my tender HTS.
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H. Jackson Brown, Jr.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Nov 14, 2016 3:52 PM CST

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Very exciting! I'm preparing spots for my new Palatines so I can hit the ground running when they arrive. I just need to eat three more bananas so I'll have a peel for each planting hole.
Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Nov 15, 2016 12:49 PM CST
Cindi - wish I could still go out in shorts! Our temps are up and down lately and sometimes cold enough to wear my thermal underwear Grumbling

Zuzu, only three more bananas? How many have you eaten so far?
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Nov 15, 2016 1:09 PM CST

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I have 5 peels ready. I'm getting 8 roses from Palatine.
Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Nov 15, 2016 1:31 PM CST
Three bananas would be enough for banana bread it you are tired of eating plain bananas - just a suggestion Big Grin
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Nov 15, 2016 3:45 PM CST
I often peel and freeze bananas for smoothies later to keep from losing them.

I ended up having my Palatine order delivered in early spring. I'm just not ready for new roses yet and still have a lot of catching up in the garden before I will be ready. Also considering adding a few to my order.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Nov 15, 2016 10:08 PM CST

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UPS just notified me that the roses will arrive on November 22nd.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Nov 16, 2016 7:24 AM CST
Plenty of time to eat those last bananas.
Porkpal
Name: Sharlene
St. Gallen - Switzerland (Zone 6a)
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sunnyvalley
Nov 16, 2016 9:01 AM CST
True Porkpal, but Neal has a great idea there. I have never tried freezing bananas.
Actually, I have also never used the skins when planting roses - I just use a bit of compost and a handful of horn meal. Too late now anyway because my order arrived last Saturday and I got them all in the ground on Sunday.
But Zuzu, I will give the bananas peels a try the next time I have roses to plant. Peels for the rose and flesh for freezing to make Neal's smoothies Smiling

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