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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Sep 19, 2016 12:48 PM CST
|I have 1500 sq ft space i want to try no till vege garden on. Flat ground (no raired beds). Y'all got any pointers for me to get started ? Its gonna be on drip. So no furrows. In my reserch there talking mostly raised beds. Its my front yard. So i don't want straw blowing into neighbor's yards. 😬 So i'm betting some of y'all have some better easier faster ways for me to get it started than the (Lasagna method). It doesn't turn me on to grow veges in all that inky newspaper or gluey cardboard 😛.
Thank you ahead of time ! 😎
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Sep 19, 2016 1:10 PM CST
|Philip - saw a podcast last week from the Back to Eden site. Pretty informative presentation involving layering fall leaves or native shredded mulch and letting it sit for a while. You might want to check it out.
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Sep 19, 2016 2:51 PM CST
|Using something flat like cardboard or newspaper as the bottom layer ensures the already-growing grass or whatever can't find a way back to the light and air, and renders most seeds already in the ground un-sproutable, except those which happen to become exposed when you're digging a little hole later to add a plant.
If you put a smother down now, it should be well decomposed by spring. This decomposition process also greatly improves the soil by adding organic matter and, as the worms and smaller members of the decomposition crew do their thing, the nutrients are processed into a form and deposited at a level in the soil that roots can access and deliver to the plant(s.) This also moderates moisture levels in times of drought/too much rain, and keeps soil from getting unnecessarily hot/cold, and from being eroded by weather.
Covered with leaves, compost &/or mulch, it just looks like a flower bed with nothing in it yet.
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Sep 19, 2016 3:18 PM CST
I am a no-till gardener and I have never used any kind of mulch, newspaper or cardboard in my garden. Spend the winter and early spring getting rid of weeds that sprout. The nice thing about California is that the weeds will sprout all winter. When you plant out your veggies next spring, dig a hole and add whatever nutrients or compost you plan to use and plant a plant. Don't disturb the soil around your veggie 'holes' as the weed seeds below the soil surface will not sprout unless brought to the surface. You will have some weeds coming up around your newly planted veggies that you will have to pull.
Between not turning the soil and using drip, you will have a pretty weed free garden. I plant everything in well spaced holes that are about 5 gallon size. In a 5 gallon hole, you can plant 1 tomato or 1 eggplant, 3 or 4 pepper plants, or 3 or 4 cucumber or squash plants.
Here is a photo I took of my veggie garden a couple months ago. I have gone smaller in my Reno home. No more 1/4 acre veggie gardens for me. That's squash and cucumbers in the back, shiso against the wall, peppers in the middle and tomatoes at the near end. There are some yard long bean plants just starting in the blue tomato cage near the squash. This garden is also raised about 1 foot but that was more to keep people from walking on my garden than anything else - I needed some sort of defining border.
This is a photo of a vegetable garden in California that my girlfriend and I planted at our Church. We produced about 2000 lbs of produce a year for the local food bank. We did get our husbands to come out every spring and rototill rows for beets, turnips, carrots, radishes, peppers and onions but everything else was in a 5 gallon planting hole.
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