Plant ID forum: Sambucus or not?

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Name: The Danish Gardener
Toowoomba, Qld, Auatralia
Sep 20, 2016 10:06 PM CST
I have found what looks like a sambucus - or is it? I am only familiar with the 'Nivea' and by first glance this one looks like it. And then - The flowers looks right (only doesn't have the sweet smell like nigra and some have 6 pedals), the branches have white marrow, the leaves looks right (only some have leaves that is split 3 ways).

(I have looked at the 'australiasia' but the leaves are not shiny and the flowers looks different)

I am sure it must be same family but which variety is it and can the flowers and berries be used?
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Sep 21, 2016 1:49 AM CST
How very interesting. Learn something new ever day. Many thanks for showing me your interesting pics!
I have never seen Sambucus with leaves that are compound and trifoliate....and so variable.
Apparently Sambucus nigra ssp. canadensis does this.

Quote link below...."Leaf, opposite, pinnately to bipinnately compound, racchis grooved."
See 2nd link for several pics.

Quote from wiki...."The dark blue/purple berries can be eaten when fully ripe but are mildly poisonous in their unripe state.[12] All green parts of the plant are poisonous, containing cyanogenic glycosides (Vedel & Lange 1960). The berries are edible after cooking and can be used to make jam, jelly, chutney and Pontack sauce."
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