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Name: Melanie Long
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mellielong
Sep 22, 2016 5:31 AM CST
So I know we've got a member cleaning up and straightening out the orchid database, and that's awesome. I received a notification that said a photo of mine was moved to a certain species entry. But it didn't tell me where it was moved from. I was just curious, as I took the photo at a botanical garden, and I would like to inform them or at least have the opportunity to learn why it was moved. Is there some way the notification could tell us what it was moved from? Trying to keep learning here. Thanks!

Here is the picture of mine that was moved:

Or, I imagine Dave can just look in my notifications. Sticking tongue out
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Name: Joshua
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Australis
Sep 22, 2016 6:17 AM CST
Hi @mellielong,

I proposed moving it. It was originally attached to Dendrobium aggregatum (which has since been deleted, since it is now considered an illegal synonym for Dendrobium lindleyi).

Hope that helps clarify the situation.

@dave - I noticed that when my proposal was approved, the system notice said:

"Your proposal to move this image from to Orchid (Dendrobium lindleyi) was approved." It looks like it didn't preserve the source of the image, especially since it likely was deleted in the same operation. Is it possible to resolve this? It might solve Melanie's request at the same time.

Thanks.
Name: Melanie Long
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mellielong
Sep 22, 2016 6:40 AM CST
Thanks, Josh! I really appreciate what you're doing. I know there are many members on here who at least try to keep taxonomy straight, so I just thought it would be nice if we had a way of knowing what the change was so we could make the change in our brains, as well. Thumbs up
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Name: Joshua
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Australis
Sep 22, 2016 6:46 AM CST
Thanks Melanie. Unfortunately not all the reasoning behind the changes is obvious/easily shown to other members, although perhaps @dave can add a comment field to proposed changes like moving images so that the owner can get an explanation. That said, who knows what functionality will be added when the site overhaul is rolled out.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Sep 22, 2016 7:06 AM CST

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It's actually kind of hard for me to know which plant that image was in before. I don't actually store that information so to find it, I'd have to dig into the backups. I should somehow find a way to add that to the system message, but it's trickier than you might think.
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Sep 22, 2016 7:08 AM CST

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Australis said:"Your proposal to move this image from to Orchid (Dendrobium lindleyi) was approved." It looks like it didn't preserve the source of the image, especially since it likely was deleted in the same operation. Is it possible to resolve this? It might solve Melanie's request at the same time.


Yes, fixing this would fix the issue. I'll look into it; thanks.
Name: Joshua
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Australis
Sep 22, 2016 7:10 AM CST
Thanks @dave. The system notice had the "...move this image from to..." phrase, so I was wondering if there was an error that caused the origin to not be included. Otherwise I would have thought the system message would have simply said "...move this image to...".

I can empathise with the difficulties of managing those sort of things. I run and manage a moderately-sized PostgreSQL database as part of my job.
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Sep 22, 2016 7:19 AM CST
I had a similar message.
Name: Joshua
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Australis
Sep 22, 2016 7:24 AM CST
Hi Hetty @Dutchlady1,

Do you mean you had one of your images moved? Would you be able to link to it? I've proposed a lot of changes today and without knowing which image it was, I'm afraid I can't remember what it might have been or why.

Kind Regards,
Joshua.
Name: Ursula
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Ursula
Sep 22, 2016 7:26 AM CST
If I may, please.
Database particulars aside, I am not so sure that this plant is Dendrobium lindleyi. It looks to me much like its smaller cousin, the Dendrobium jenkinsii. I myself never could tell the difference in those pretty blooms, but jenkinsii has smaller growth/ somewhat roundish leaves.
Hmmm? Here is a side by side comparison -
Thumb of 2016-09-22/Ursula/52b9c3
Some years ago, after growing lindleyi for some time, I bought the jenkinsii simply to see the
comparison.

I posted the comparison also here
http://garden.org/thread/view_post/401375/
[Last edited by Ursula - Sep 22, 2016 7:33 AM (+)]
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Name: Joshua
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (Zone 10b)
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Australis
Sep 22, 2016 7:33 AM CST
@Ursula - I see what you mean. Melanie's photo could indeed be of Dendrobium jenkinsii. It's difficult to tell, but based on the size of the plant and ratio between leaves and blooms, I'm inclined to agree with you.

@Dutchlady1 - just found you have a photo attached to Dendrobium lindleyi. It was moved for the same reason as Melanie's. Is that the one you meant?
Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Sep 22, 2016 8:10 AM CST
Australis said:
@Dutchlady1 - just found you have a photo attached to Dendrobium lindleyi. It was moved for the same reason as Melanie's. Is that the one you meant?

Yes it is.

Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Sep 22, 2016 12:21 PM CST

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When one of your photos has been moved, check the entry to which it has been moved. If a synonym has been added to the entry, there's a good chance that's where your photo originally was.

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