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Sep 24, 2016 3:18 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Help! My Japanese NoID Thumb of 2016-09-24/Lestv/d9dea1

produced 4 little pods that split open today and they have tons of seeds! (Picture to come later.)

Questions:

1) Do you start JI seeds the same as bearded? If not, is there a good guide for growing JI seedlings?

2) Can JI cross with LA's or TB's? I never had bee pods before this year, and then had bee pods on all three! Since very few JI bloomed this year I wonder if the pollen is crossed?

All help appreciated. Smiling
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Sep 24, 2016 6:00 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
How exciting! I think we need to call @vanozzi
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Sep 24, 2016 7:53 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Yes indeed as he hybridized many!
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Sep 25, 2016 12:14 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Just look at all the seeds from those tiny pods!

Thumb of 2016-09-25/Lestv/b63b57
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Sep 25, 2016 1:39 PM CST
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
good luck to you! exciting new adventure with a new iris line.

they are my favorite flower to use in my ikebana arrangements.😊
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Sep 25, 2016 1:58 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
I bet they are beautiful arrangements. JI's do so well in arrangements where they can be the focal point.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Sep 25, 2016 7:51 PM CST
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
@Lestv

leslie are you planning to soak them in tea first? or hydrogen peroxide? then spraying w/camomille tea?

these articles might be food for thought before you embark on your journey?

http://www.epsomsaltcouncil.or...
The thread "Hydrogen Peroxide for Gardening" in Seeds forum

here's a quote i got from the nga site on preventing damping off.
"Jay,
I have found that Chamomile tea works the best to prevent damping off. Just steep two bags in a tea pot until it is room temp. Transfer to a spray bottle and spray your seedling. Or water seedlings with the tea. I've been doing this for years and never had damping off so I think it works. Once the seedling get a few sets of leaves they should be ok and not so vulnerable to damping off"

edited: to say i just found these articles last evening. found the dilution chart most helpful, plus the warnings about misuse of extra strength.
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Sep 26, 2016 4:46 AM CST
Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
G'day Leslie, your plant of Japanese iris looks pretty snazzy! Congratulations on your first seeds, the first of many I hope.
I'm no expert, but have had quite a deal of success in raising JI's from seed to flowering in a short time.Some methods have been more successful than others.If you have followed my journey on the ''Japanese Iris'' thread, most of what follows is there.
This is what I do in my climate.
When the pods begin to split, collect them.Now, I think it is best to open them straight away and put seeds in a paper bag to dry for about a month.If you don't open the pod immediately, you may find a worm has devoured the contents by a later date.In the couple of trials that I have done, soaking the seed, after the initial 4 weeks, in (cold) black tea, changing it three times in as many days and then placing the drained seed into a plastic bag with some moist kitchen hand paper for 4 to 6 weeks, placing them in the fridge and then sowing gives me excellent results.I aim to have a good percentage germinate before winter.The seed trays must be open to the weather and the soil should not be allowed to dry out at any time.Sow all seed, even though some may look crappy.I have not had mould on any seed, but if you do, I would wash that seed in about 10% bleach, rinse and sow.You can skip the tea wash if you prefer and just soak and rinse in clean water as above.

Japanese iris are self fertile.They do cross with Iris pseudacorus, the most widely known clone being ''Kimboshi'', but there are others that are very beautiful which I have not seen.

The above approach may not be suitable for those growing in a very cold climate, so check out the methods used elsewhere.
Best of luck.
Different latitudes, different attitudes
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Sep 26, 2016 5:16 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Thanks Paul! Do you think it would be okay to let the seeds dry for longer? If they dry for a month then are in the fridge a month that puts them in pots in the beginning of December, so the seeds would be outside at the start of winter. Do they need that cold?
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Sep 26, 2016 6:45 AM CST
Name: Paul
Bunbury, Western Australia. (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
Leslie, the easiest way to loose viability with Japanese iris is to store them dry.

My 10 month old dog Remy has just died in front of me.
I won't be posting for a while.
Last year, on Oct 2 my 8 year old shepherd Mischa died from snake bite.
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Sep 26, 2016 8:24 AM CST
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Dog Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Group hug Group hug Group hug Paul, I'm crying with you.
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Sep 26, 2016 8:44 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
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Sep 26, 2016 9:31 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA (Zone 6b)
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So sorry Paul.
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Sep 26, 2016 9:34 AM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
Oh no Paul! Crying

I'm sorry for your loss! Group hug
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Sep 26, 2016 11:13 AM CST
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Group hug heartbreaking news, paul. i am so sorry for your loss.
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Sep 26, 2016 12:57 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Oh dear. I am so sorry for your loss. Group hug Group hug
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Sep 26, 2016 4:25 PM CST
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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Paul, I'm so sorry. Crying with you now...

Leslie, can you keep seedlings indoors until spring?
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Sep 26, 2016 4:37 PM CST
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Seed Starter
Group hug So sorry Paul. Ten months is much too young
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Sep 27, 2016 3:50 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Oh no Paul, That is so unfair. So sorry you are going through this again so soon. Group hug
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Sep 27, 2016 12:08 PM CST
Name: Deborah
midstate South Carolina (Zone 8a)
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I'm feeling your pain and shedding many tears for you Paul. Crying As was mentioned it's so sad that you're going through this again so soon.We're looking forward to your return when your heart heals. Group hug Group hug

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