Plant ID forum: what tree is this?

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andyspeak
Oct 7, 2016 4:52 AM CST
Had fruit on it. Dark purple skin, size of a golfball, with orange flesh. Definitely related to peach/nectarine etc but not sure what it is exactly.
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Name: Greene
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greene
Oct 7, 2016 6:05 AM CST
...and the tree is located in which city/state/country? Thank You!
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andyspeak
Oct 7, 2016 6:22 AM CST
It is in Merano in Northern Italy. It is a cultivated tree though, not a wild one
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 7, 2016 6:37 AM CST
Can you post a photo of the leaves? It reminds me of Plum, maybe a variety of Prunus domestica: http://garden.org/plants/search/text/?q=Prunus+domestica

Fruit images for comparison: Prunus domestica fruit images
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Name: Greene
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greene
Oct 7, 2016 6:42 AM CST
Could be Empress prune plum which is popular in Italian home gardens. Prunica domestica "Empress".

http://www.specialtyproduce.com/produce/Italian_Prune_Plums_...
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 7, 2016 7:47 AM CST
I submitted a proposal to add 'Empress' to our database since I couldn't find it listed there.
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sooby
Oct 7, 2016 9:10 AM CST
Damsons maybe? (No such plant as Prunica, Greene, I too saw that in Google results when I searched for "Empress" but I think someone mis-spelled Prunus and it was perpetuated from there).

Damsons:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=damsons&client=safari&hl=en-c...

I'm not sure that 'Empress' is an actual cultivar of plum rather than a type?
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Oct 7, 2016 10:38 AM CST
Maybe I jumped the gun then, proposing to add it to the database. @zuzu, can you decline my proposal, please? Green Grin!
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sooby
Oct 7, 2016 10:50 AM CST
Lin, it may be sold as a cultivar but when I did some Googling for that this morning I didn't find anything to support that, I saw mostly "also sold as". So don't write it off just yet - we could do some more checking, I didn't have time to pursue it after a quick looking this morning.
Name: Greene
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greene
Oct 13, 2016 1:28 PM CST
sooby said: No such plant as Prunica, Greene...


Thank you for the correction. I know it's supposed to be prunus but offered the spelling as prunica even though it is incorrect because there are several search results with good information about this tree using the "wrong" spelling.

Here is a site that offers several of the European type plum trees. Maybe this will help to identify the mystery tree in Italy.
https://www.grandpasorchard.com/Tree-Type/Plum-European-Vari...

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