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Name: Colleen
Edgewood, NM (Zone 5b)
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Agoo
Oct 20, 2016 7:09 PM CST
Was reading online about using coffee grounds & tobacco to make a sprayable insecticide to kill off all the bad bugs but not kill off the bees, which I really like. OK my question is... Do you use Used coffee grounds or does it need to be fresh coffee grounds? Also, are there other recipes like this? Thanks for any info on this.
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Oct 20, 2016 7:14 PM CST
I have never heard of that before. I know people use coffee grounds in their compost piles but have never heard of spraying coffee or nicotine on plants to repel insects. My concern would be that if you used this concoction in copious amounts, you would affect the soil Ph and leach calcium. I don't know if this is true - just my thoughts.

I'm sure nicotine would kill bugs, it does a good job killing people.
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Name: Colleen
Edgewood, NM (Zone 5b)
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Agoo
Oct 20, 2016 7:30 PM CST
I came across the article/recipe on facebook. I was hoping to get more info or opinions from other gardeners here. If its permitted, I can post the whole article. Just know I didn't write it.
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Oct 20, 2016 7:30 PM CST

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Tobacco might not be good for your plants either. I know smokers who wash their hands before they handle their tomato plants so they won't transfer tobacco mosaic virus to the tomatoes. That might be an old wives' tale. I don't know.
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sallyg
Oct 20, 2016 7:50 PM CST
Easy to find links about this idea, here's one
https://philebersole.wordpress...

In this one, you're making a water-alcohol- soap spray, which we know to be effective without adding tobacco and caffeine. So I don't know if we can say the tobacco and caffeine are needed.
and- Has anyone heard of capsaicin in insecticide? Or are they just taking a shotgun approach, adding some thing used in other repellants (for animals)?
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Altheabyanothername
Oct 20, 2016 8:01 PM CST
I agree with Zuzu. I would not use any tobacco or tobacco product in my garden. Tobacco mosaic virus is one of the oldest plant viruses and infects many different types of plants. I would not want to take the chance, I do not even grow Nicotiana for that reason. May your life be full of joy!
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ctcarol
Oct 20, 2016 8:04 PM CST
Nicotinoids , used by plant breeders are supposed to be harmful to honeybees. I don't know what the concentration might be, but it does get into the plant tissue. I would do more investigation before using it. Capsaicin would be a deterent to some critters, but I don't think it kills anything. I could be wrong on that.
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sooby
Oct 21, 2016 6:49 AM CST
Nicotine has a long history of use as an insecticide and, at least in some formulations, can actually be more toxic than many "chemical" pesticides. I'm pretty sure I remember my grandfather using it 50-60 years ago. He was a smoker also so the transmission of tobacco/tomato mosaic viruses from the tobacco were also a potential issue for him. Here is a clip from a master gardener article on organic pesticides:

"Nicotine, extracted from tobacco or related Nicotiana species, is one of the oldest botanical insecticides, but it’s also one of the most toxic to warm-blooded animals and therefore is NOT allowed under federal standards for organic production (and as of 2014 no nicotine products will be registered for use in the US). Nicotine sulfate is readily absorbed through the skin but breaks down quickly. (DANGER or WARNING, depending on formulation)."

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tarev
Oct 21, 2016 10:17 AM CST
I have added used coffee grounds but I added it to the soil, said to repel snails and slugs. But I did not spray it on the plant. Did it have an effect...hmm, I think so observing the plants I have it in did not get badly mutilated like they used to by snails or slugs, but my observation is not too conclusive since our wet period is so short here.

As for capsaicin, I add a few drops of tabasco sauce to my homemade spray if I really want to get rid of those aphids, it worked faster.

No idea on the tobacco one.

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