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Name: Kathy Zorn
Boyers,pa (Zone 5a)
Kayz
Nov 4, 2016 6:23 PM CST
Can you cross a diploid with a taraploid? Thanks kayz
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Nov 4, 2016 6:53 PM CST
Crossing daylilies of different ploidies is rarely successful.
Name: Kathy Zorn
Boyers,pa (Zone 5a)
Kayz
Nov 5, 2016 4:49 AM CST
Thanks, that's what I thought but I bid on a Lily that was a cross between a dip and a tet.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Nov 5, 2016 5:31 AM CST
Did you check whether the registered ploidy of the parents seemed right by checking their parents, if known?
Name: Kathy Zorn
Boyers,pa (Zone 5a)
Kayz
Nov 7, 2016 3:54 PM CST
From what I found out. , you can cross them by doing something with their chromazomes . It makes it possible to cross them and you can get really beautiful lilies from that certain cross. More teeth , ruffles, ect. Thanks kayz
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Nov 7, 2016 4:16 PM CST
A diploid daylily can be coverted to a tetraploid daylily to double its number of chromosomes so that it can then be crossed with another tetraploid, but it's not something the average person would typically do. It isn't easy and requires the use of certain chemicals with no guarantee of success. You could look to see if your preferred diploid has already been converted by someone. As far as the one you bid on, if one parent was a converted diploid it should have said so, the formerly dip parent's name being prefixed by tet or tetra. Do you know the names of the parents of your dip x tet?
Name: Kathy Zorn
Boyers,pa (Zone 5a)
Kayz
Nov 8, 2016 8:05 PM CST
I did find out the parents and one was converted. They are good hybridizers. Anyway they are now converted to tets. It will be a beautiful Lily . Thanks for listening
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Nov 13, 2016 9:55 AM CST
@Kayz Hi Kathy like Sue I am also curious to know the names of the parent of the seeds that you bought.
Your response was very vague.
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Name: Kathy Zorn
Boyers,pa (Zone 5a)
Kayz
Nov 14, 2016 5:29 AM CST
I bought the Lily plant . , Called Blue Desire. Go back and look at the parents . When I looked them up one was a dip and the other was a tet. Kayz
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Nov 14, 2016 5:45 AM CST
'Blue Desire' is 'Delta Blues' (tetraploid) x tet. 'Crystal Blue Persuasion' (tetraploid). So both parents are tets. As I mentioned above, a conversion from diploid to tetraploid is indicated by tet or tetra in front of the original diploid cultivar name so it was the tetraploid version of 'Crystal Blue Persuasion' that was used as indicated in the AHS and NGA databases.
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Name: Kathy Zorn
Boyers,pa (Zone 5a)
Kayz
Nov 18, 2016 10:54 AM CST
Thanks for clearing that up! Aot of info out there to read. Kayz

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