Carnivorous Plants forum: Upper half of pitchers is browning

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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Nov 27, 2016 9:34 AM CST
This is a two year old Nepenthes, started from a cutting. I don't know the specific variety. Though the plant is growing and appears to be healthy, all the "pitchers" have dry, brown, wrinkly "pitchers" and new pitchers don't seem to be forming properly. What's wrong with this plant/pitchers?

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Name: Rj
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crawgarden
Nov 27, 2016 7:01 PM CST
Ken, I found this info:

Pitchers only live for a few months. Some can live a lot longer. When the leaf at the top of the pitcher starts curling in and turning brown, the peristome will be soon to follow. After the browning has gotten about halfway down the pitcher, cut off the tendril from the end of the leaf. It will keep your plant looking a lot healthier.
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Nov 27, 2016 7:11 PM CST
Yes, I was thinking that maybe the pitchers are just old. I noticed that one I have grew a whole flush of pitchers at once and then they all died at once. Luckily, it grew more.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Nov 27, 2016 9:15 PM CST
Thank you, @crawgarden and @Daisyl. I did not know that these pitchers had such a short life-span. These pitchers will probably average 9 mo. I thought it strange that there were no small/young pitchers, only all those that began growing last fall/winter. I reckon I will understand this plant's growing cycles more come spring.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Nov 27, 2016 9:24 PM CST
Thumbs up Thank you, @crawgarden and @Daisyl. I did not know that these pitchers had such a short life-span. These pitchers will probably average 9 mo. I thought it strange that there were no small/young pitchers, only all those that began growing last fall/winter. I reckon I will understand this plant's growing cycles more come spring.
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Nov 28, 2016 1:01 PM CST
Yup, they just dry out like that. I just try to ignore the brown dry part as much as I can, eventually it will all dry up and just need to trim it. My Nepenthes did that too, especially when we were away for an extended period, I guess it got dried out longer than it should, but now we are back so carefully nurturing the plant to make new leaves and eventually the newer pitchers. It is doing better now, new leaves are out, and I see new pitcher growth too. I also see that it is the older pitchers that are heading out, so similar to most plants, the older leaves drying out first.

I have seen in a youtube video where one grower just cuts off the brown upper part, and just maintain the still lower green part, since it is still attached to the main leaf, and still does some photosynthesis too.




Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Nov 28, 2016 2:48 PM CST
Thanks, Tarev.
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Name: Rj
Just S of the twin cities of M (Zone 4b)
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crawgarden
Dec 2, 2016 2:43 PM CST
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Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Dec 2, 2016 4:20 PM CST
Whew, Rj @ crawgarden, that's exactly what all my pitchers looked like. I have already trimmed the brown off, leaving the green bottoms filled with liquid. Now I know that young plants, with newly formed pitchers, will continue growing those pitchers through the cold months. I will no longer worry when I see those dead pitcher tops on my mature plants. Who says one gets too old to learn?
drdawg (Ken Ramsey) - Tropical Plants & More
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Name: Rj
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crawgarden
Dec 2, 2016 7:36 PM CST
It makes sense aft I thought about it for awhile, I'm guessing the pitcher is the flower and eventually all flowers fade, die etc. Saw that and thought it would make your day, wonder what the average length of the life of the pitcher is.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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drdawg
Dec 2, 2016 9:19 PM CST
I think these plants actually flower but I haven't grown one long enough to see that happen.
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Dec 3, 2016 12:52 PM CST
The pitchers are not the flower Rj..though mine has not given me blooms yet. I did see some photos online, so there is a male and female, so got to wait and see if what we got is whichever one, hey, hopefully we all get to see one soon!: http://www.carnivorousplants.o...
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Dec 3, 2016 2:05 PM CST
The pitcher is just a leaf, a clever modified leaf. It fetches its own dinner. Smiling

Mine have never bloomed either. I'll ask a friend who has a monster one if her's has ever bloomed.
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