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Name: Anita
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Lioba
Dec 6, 2016 11:11 AM CST
I received this white peony from a co-worker in 2008. Its my only white one and its never spread. I'd appreciate identification and how to multiply it. It takes my breath away.

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Name: Karen
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kousa
Dec 6, 2016 12:41 PM CST
@Lioba, with peonies, it is really hard to identify a no id peony because there are many out there that look similar. Your white peony looks like a white Japanese or anemone type peony. If you give more info like its height, time of bloom, and pics of its foliage and stems, other people who grow something similar maybe able to give you suggestions.
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magnolialover
Dec 6, 2016 12:51 PM CST

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It's a beautiful peony. How lucky for you to have been
given such a nice gift.

Some peonies are slower to grow than others, or don't increase as fast.

There are many white Japanese type peonies which may make it tough to determine the name. Though we do have people with some big collections here, maybe they will find you a match.

Good luck and welcome.
Tracey
Name: Anita
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Lioba
Dec 7, 2016 7:47 AM CST
Thank you for your welcoming me.

All your help is welcome. Please ask me questions so I can help you help me ID my white peony.

It was impossible to photo the flower with foliage because it was shorter (24") than my other peonies surrounding it (3' foliage w/ flowers can reach 4') and the white one blooms later. When I got the white one I had no idea how different it was. I think I need to move it. Maybe to a corner.

The below photo shows the farmer's roses in pink that currently surround my delicate white one. This photo was taken in July when the pink ones are beginning to fade. The white one blooms before that happens.

Please excuse the photo. I wasn't into capturing aesthetics then. The background looks totally different now.
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Name: Karen
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kousa
Dec 7, 2016 7:50 PM CST
I am sorry Lioba but I don't think anything that I grow resembles your white NOID. Most of my white ones are single, semidouble, double, and bomb types of peonies.
Name: Anita
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Lioba
Dec 14, 2016 12:26 PM CST
Do I really need a name? I should move it, Yes? Its shorter than the pink ones and blooms later. A corner of the patch? Stand alone?

Do white ones tend to spread? Will it need protection in a windy Zone 5(a)?

I know peonies don't like to be moved. Sighing!
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LizinElizabeth
Dec 14, 2016 10:19 PM CST
The only reason you'd need a name is if you were trying to get more of exactly that variety, to make sure you're not making duplicate purchases or for your own records. Most of us have plenty on peonies we don't have a name for, typically just call them something like white NOID, no biggie. As far as moving it most do fine if you dig and divide (if they're pretty large) in the fall, much like any other perennial they sulk if you move them during their active growing season. Most peonies are about as wide as they are tall if they're planted in full sun when mature, they typically don't spread any larger. Some do have fertile seeds and you could get seedlings, though, but probably won't look much like the parent. As for protection, most are fine down to zone 4 so not really necessary but your blooms will probably last longer if they're not in high winds! As for location, that's personal preference. They look great massed, with other perennials or alone, just leave enough room for air to circulate between them.
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littlebin
Dec 15, 2016 2:40 AM CST
Found one similar to yours, Peony 'Immaculee', see if it fits?
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Lioba said:I received this white peony from a co-worker in 2008. Its my only white one and its never spread. I'd appreciate identification and how to multiply it. It takes my breath away.

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Oberon46
Dec 15, 2016 6:59 AM CST
that's a great find LittleBin. Hurray!
Name: Anita
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Lioba
Jun 13, 2017 9:36 AM CST
@littlebin looks like it to me. Very grateful for your research. Thank You! I've been taking pictures of the leaves and relative growth compared to its sisters.




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Name: Anya
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anyagoro
Jun 13, 2017 2:12 PM CST
The flower looks like 'Immaculee' though it grows to 80-90 cm
http://www.paeo.de/name/index_...

It looks lit it is too crowded where it grows and probably it is a good idea to move it to a place with more sun and nutrients, less root competition. It is very pretty! Thumbs up
Name: Frank Richards
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frankrichards16
Jun 13, 2017 3:14 PM CST
Also looks kind of like 'Primavere'
Name: Anya
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anyagoro
Jun 13, 2017 3:25 PM CST
Immaculee has red carpels, Primevere does not.
Name: Frank Richards
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frankrichards16
Jun 13, 2017 5:53 PM CST
My Primevere seems to have red carpels?




Name: Anya
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anyagoro
Jun 13, 2017 10:38 PM CST
Interesting! Where did you get it from? I have never seen either Primevere or Immaculee in person, only on pictures and descriptions, my Primevere is not going to flower this year, it is still small.
Name: Frank Richards
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frankrichards16
Jun 14, 2017 4:57 AM CST
I purchased one from Jung and one from Wild. Not sure which one this is. Only have one still alive.
Name: Anita
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Lioba
Jun 15, 2017 6:08 AM CST
@frankrichards16 I have the white peony in question and it is pure white. Yours seem to have a nice shade of yellow towards the middle. All so confusing. I will go with the Immaculee. Thank you all for your input.

@anyagoro I will take your advice and others to transplant. Thank you.
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Its easy for me to believe in miracles when science can't explain why a blade of grass has its shape and that is just one plant and one attribute.
Name: Anita
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Lioba
Jun 15, 2017 12:27 PM CST
littlebin said:Found one similar to yours, Peony 'Immaculee', see if it fits?
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I was wondering if you want to add my photos to the plant database since you ID'd it?
-Anita






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littlebin
Jun 15, 2017 5:13 PM CST
Hi, Anita, you can add yourself, I don't know how to add though :(.

Lioba said:
I was wondering if you want to add my photos to the plant database since you ID'd it?

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Name: Anita
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Lioba
Jun 17, 2017 8:10 AM CST
@ magnolialover and @Ticker, Hi! littlebin ID'd my white peony as 'Immaculee'
Paeonia lactiflora. I would her to get acorn(s) for my pictures in the database when they are moved from here. Since you are the moderators of this forum can you do this?

I have decided to give littlebin acorns and I posted my photos to the database.

Lioba said:@littlebin looks like it to me. Very grateful for your research. Thank You! I've been taking pictures of the leaves and relative growth compared to its sisters.




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