Lilies forum: Double martagon

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Name: Dave
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Nhra_20
Dec 9, 2016 1:33 PM CST
Came across this one in a conversation with another person on FB. I'm not a big fan of the double lilies, but this one I like. A double martagon with outfacing orientation.
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Name: Tracey
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Dec 9, 2016 1:46 PM CST

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Doesn't really appeal to me, too small of a flower, almost reminded me of a balloon flower as it opened up. Novelty for sure.
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MichiganMike
Dec 9, 2016 2:22 PM CST
Dave - It would certainly be high on the "wierdo" meter, which I generally gravitate towards, but in this case it may be just a little too different for my tastes.
Name: Gary
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hostasmore
Dec 9, 2016 4:12 PM CST
I too am not at all attracted to double lilies. I have never ordered any but the ones I have seen in local nurseries do not flip any swithces for me.
Name: Dave
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Nhra_20
Dec 9, 2016 4:21 PM CST
Of all my lilies, I only have one double. Tahalita. It was one the wife really liked at the time. It didn't do great this year, so might be on the decline.
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William
Dec 9, 2016 4:22 PM CST
Dave, you might be interested in the thread I started about this one last year: The thread "Lilium martagon forma flore pleno 'Kallmora'" in Lilies forum Some of the links I gave in that thread are however obsolete by now.

While I can understand arguments against it, it's one of the few double lilies that currently appeals to me. There is still something graceful about it, even though it's double.
Name: Dave
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Nhra_20
Dec 9, 2016 4:30 PM CST
I will check that thread out. Thanks William. Always curious about such things. I guess it was originally an 18th century lily and occurred in nature.
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William
Dec 9, 2016 5:15 PM CST
The history behind this lily is more than a little unclear. I made a crude and shortened translation from http://www.slu.se/centrumbildn...

"The farm where the lily grows is called Elingspersgård. It was built in 1907 by Elingspers Hans Ersson and his wife Karin Ersson, grandmother and grandfather to the current owner that is also named Karin. Karin beliefs that here grandmother brought the double martagon with her from her childhood home in the neighboring village Mässbacken, but she isn't completely sure. The martagons have however been growing at the farm as long as long as Karin can remember and she is born in in the 1940's.

Karin has for many year looked around in neighbouring farms and villages but hasn't been able to find the double martagon anywhere. One guess is that a distant relative brought it back from France in the beginning of the 19th century."

Some links to high resolution images of the Kallmora lily (you can click on them to expand)
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Dec 9, 2016 6:23 PM CST

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What a strange lily! Certainly different, but not something I'm likely to get. I'm generally not inclined to doubles - I've only ever seen one so far that I'd consider getting. The fact that it's outfacing, too, somewhat clashes with my internal "rule" that martagons should be down-facing and fully recurved.
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Joebass
Dec 11, 2016 9:57 PM CST
I hate most double lilies! The lancifolium flore Plano and double orientals are ugly but for some reason I think this one looks cool.

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BUGGYCRAZY
Dec 16, 2016 10:33 PM CST
I too do not like the double lilies, but this one I do. Maybe because it is a smaller, daintier bloom that makes it so appealing to me. I am also a big fan of the bizarre, if it were black I would be head over heels!

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