Plant ID forum: Not quite Culvers Root

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Chicago, Illinois
rhino57
Dec 15, 2016 6:43 AM CST


Found in Chicago region. Photo taken in October. I thought originally Culvers Root, but the leaves are not in the proper whorled arrangement. The flower is somewhat like Obedient plant but then the leaves are pretty different.


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Leftwood
Dec 15, 2016 10:53 AM CST
Obedient plants have opposite leaves (not whorled), square stems(not round) and flowers in four columns spaced squarely around the stem. So not obedient plant at all.
Chicago, Illinois
rhino57
Dec 16, 2016 6:26 AM CST
What about Verbena hastata?
Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Dec 16, 2016 10:56 AM CST
Verbena hastata has square stems, too.
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sooby
Dec 16, 2016 12:38 PM CST
I'm wondering if your first thought of Culver's Root is the right one. The leaves do look whorled, and maybe they are somewhat less symmetrical at the top of the plant where there are flowers?

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