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Dec 15, 2016 9:25 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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I see that Keith Keppel has his new introductions up and his web page is updated. Not sure he's taking orders yet, but it looks like one could by printing an order blank and sending it through the mail. He sure has a lot of new ones this year. I see 9 or 10 I want already. Oh Dear! Lovey dubby He also has a lot of Blyth irises.

http://www.keithkeppeliris.com...
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Dec 15, 2016 9:33 AM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Oh Dear! is right!
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Dec 15, 2016 10:04 AM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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Confused Confused Confused How many of the Keppel intros can I afford Confused Confused Confused and what about the Blyths that he carries Confused Confused Confused and what will Joe Ghio introduce Confused Confused Confused and then there is Mid-America and others....... Shrug!
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Dec 15, 2016 10:08 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Good thing I found a kid who is good at gardening and I can hire next year. I don't think I can cull enough old ones to make room for all the new ones I want. And like Paul said, I haven't even seen most of them yet. D'Oh!
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Dec 15, 2016 10:17 AM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
Grandchildren are my greatest joy.
Annuals Enjoys or suffers cold winters Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Garden Procrastinator Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Plays in the sandbox
Tender Perennials Tomato Heads The WITWIT Badge Region: Utah Vegetable Grower Hybridizer
I found a great garden helper last summer, a young teen in my neighborhood. He is willing and follows instructions. He should be a great help next season......
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Dec 15, 2016 10:52 AM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
Grandchildren are my greatest joy.
Annuals Enjoys or suffers cold winters Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Garden Procrastinator Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Plays in the sandbox
Tender Perennials Tomato Heads The WITWIT Badge Region: Utah Vegetable Grower Hybridizer
I looked on the Monterey Bay Iris Society site and it said that Joe Ghio would have 7 Tb intros this year and to expect to see them after Christmas.......anticipation!
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Dec 15, 2016 11:58 AM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
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Keith said that he is taking orders now. I sent mine in yesterday, so hard to choose the ones I wanted without getting them all!
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Dec 15, 2016 1:33 PM CST
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
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After asking Keith a few questions on some, I'm still working on narrowing down somewhat. Luckily he doesn't take plastic or I'd be in major trouble.
Gimme it and I'll grow it!
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Dec 15, 2016 2:16 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
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I fell in love with the Keppel, Smoky Dusk - but it's a late, and I'm trying not to buy more of those -
in case the drought returns next summer.

He has some new beauties.
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Dec 15, 2016 2:36 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Anything we should know from your discussion with him Gabe?
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Dec 15, 2016 3:13 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
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I must have Cosmic Voyage, Imperial Guard, Mood Ring and Smoky Dusk. Drooling They would look good planted together too.
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Dec 15, 2016 3:16 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
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In theory I want Cosmic Voyage, but the orange part on the falls varies a lot so I'm on the fence. If it always looked like the one shown on the intros page I would snatch it up in a heartbeat. I put it down on my subs list, which Keith pulled from for my bonuses last year so I may end up with it afterall Crossing Fingers!
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Dec 15, 2016 4:02 PM CST
Name: Niki
Bend, Oregon (Zone 6a)
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I love 'Bond Girl' because I can't seem to get enough pink. I like 'Cosmic Voyage' too, but I new introductions are to expensive for me so I will wait.
"The Earth laughs in flowers."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Dec 15, 2016 5:25 PM CST
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
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Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
Lestv said:Anything we should know from your discussion with him Gabe?


Yeah, he has time to respond promptly because he's basically stuck inside today from the weather. I told him not to go stir crazy.

Here's edited notes of the conversation. I asked a few questions of hybridizing concerns. Fertility both ways, tougher less fertile ones, and the future direction of some plicatas, and general characteristics.

Me: Haft patterns are always a plus for me. Does 'Painted Shadows' put out anything great to you, in your opinion? Obviously depending what it's crossed with..

KK: you asked about patterning and Painted Shadows. Painted Shadows has variable expression of patterning. (You can also see it in its grandparent Decadence.) The lack of uniformity I find interesting. As a breeder, Painted Shadows has done very little for me. It is not an easy parent, and the seed is slow to germinate. If you make crosses with it (or its sibs Espionage, Foreign Agent...both of which I would recommend as parents over Painted Shadows), plan on holding onto the seed pod for a second year as you may get more germination in the second year than in the first.

I'll share a little more later tonight. I know this branches off a little into a hybridizer's thread, but bare with me. Thumbs up
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Dec 15, 2016 5:37 PM CST
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
More edited convo and keypoints about some newer intros.

Me: Of the 2017's, what are very happy pod or pollen parents? What's a more difficult?

KK: Desert Trails: am getting the better stems into this general line
Barbados: its sib, for the lateness of bloom for a plicata...but stem not as good as DT
Cosmic Voyage: to try and increase the orange color in the ground
Vista Point: for the yellow blot pattern in the ground. From related lines I have bloomed one VERY puny one with pink blot....really fun...so that could be a project for you. Watch substance in this line.
Margin Call: for more of the bicolor type.

Of the five, I'd be most tempted to use Desert Trails, Cosmic Voyage, and Vista Point..for potential. I've got many seedlings with better colors, but lacking in garden qualities, and will probably be working with them along with the above.

***Good note of advice***
KK:A hybridizer does not always use ALL his introductions in crosses, and very few of them for large quantity of crosses. There are too many possibilities and only so much time and energy (at least when you're pushing eighty!).*****end****

He shared a little more and gave some me inspiration and great encouragement. I encourage anyone who wants any really technical answers to speak or email him or talk to him concerning his creations or any hybridizer. Who would know best than the direct source?! Thumbs up
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Dec 15, 2016 6:17 PM CST
Name: Liz
East Dover, VT (Zone 5a)
Annuals Irises Lilies Region: Northeast US Organic Gardener Peonies
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Thank you so much for sharing that Gabe. I do appreciate how hybridizes are willing to share their expertise and Keith's methods are highly respected. I do find it interesting how he commented on not always using all your intros for further hybridization. I'm curious how Vista Point will express the yellow blot differently depending on where it grows, if any difference at all.
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Dec 15, 2016 6:24 PM CST
Name: Gabriel/Gabe Rivera
Charlotte, NC (Zone 7b)
German imported, Michigan raised
Garden Photography Plant and/or Seed Trader Enjoys or suffers hot summers Roses Garden Procrastinator Region: North Carolina
Lilies Irises Hybridizer Hostas Dog Lover Daylilies
We'll find out one day in the near future Whistling
Gimme it and I'll grow it!
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Dec 15, 2016 6:38 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Interesting, it's so nice that he shares his expertise.
Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often, and for the same reason.
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Dec 15, 2016 7:38 PM CST
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a semi-retired studio potter.
Dog Lover Hummingbirder Organic Gardener Daylilies Region: Ukraine Region: California
Irises Dahlias Garden Art Cat Lover Vegetable Grower Birds
I agree I tip my hat to you.
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Dec 15, 2016 8:51 PM CST
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Thank You! for sharing Gabe. Really insightful stuff. Hurray!
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black

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