Peonies forum: Peonies that do in shade and part shade?

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Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Dec 19, 2016 1:52 PM CST
Zigzagging on line, I have notes on the following as tolerating some shade. I know most do best with 6 hours of sun, but when your yard is maturing with trees and shrubs?

Zhi Hong
Fen Dan Bai
obovata
Japanese
Lutea var. ludlowii
Rare Flower of Frosty Dew ( Qi Hua Lu Shuang)
White Wings
Sarah Bernhardt
Most tree peonies
Border Charm

Do any of you grow any of these in part shade?
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Dec 19, 2016 2:43 PM CST
The ones that I have in partial shade are Red Charm and Duchess de Nemours. They bloom less but I think the flowers last longer and have more intense coloring than those bloom in full sun.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
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LizinElizabeth
Dec 19, 2016 3:19 PM CST
A lot of the dark colors are supposed to do well in shade. Most of mine in that location are NOIDs except for Rose Heart, it's in shade most of the morning but does well
LizB
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Dec 19, 2016 4:50 PM CST
All of mine are in some shade at times of the day, like very early. But since our sun lasts a long time, even if they miss a little morning sun, they get more than enough. The shade comes from 1) the too tall house to my right, 2) fence on the east side of the yard with plants within six feet of fence, 3) bushes on the west that just get bigger no matter how much I prune (but those guys get sun from early morning to mid afternoon so no problem later.
Name: LG
Nashvillle (Zone 7a)
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Mieko2
Dec 19, 2016 11:42 PM CST
I am in zone 7 a. I try to plant my tree peonies so that they get afternoon shade. The herbaceous peonies really need full sun to perform their best.
Itoh peonies are so expensive that I have not yet tried them in the shadier portions of my garden beds. In fact I'm going to move one into a sunnier spot if we get a warm spell.
LG - My garden grows with love and a lot of hard work.
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Dec 20, 2016 7:56 AM CST
Thanks!
I should add Buckeye Belle to my own list.
When I planted them, they would have had 6 hours of sun, but with shrubs growing up----not so much sun!
One of them does flower,but not great.
And the other quit flowering. I should move that one.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
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LizinElizabeth
Dec 20, 2016 11:04 AM CST
Caroline, have the shrubs fully leafed out during the height of the peony grow season? If not I wouldn't worry about it, they can take more shade (not full, but more).
LizB
Name: Mary
Lake Stevens, WA (Zone 8a)
Near Seattle
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Pistil
Dec 20, 2016 11:29 AM CST
I have P. lutea in dry shade under a cedar tree! It is a very large shrub with big tropical looking leaves, but it doesn't bloom much, possibly due to the shade, or maybe lack of summer water. Anyway it always looks fine even with no water for 6 weeks. At the arboretum in Seattle they have a huge hedge of these in high shade that I think might be 15 feet tall. They are in a wild section so I can't imagine they get watered at all.
I have a couple of tree peonies (Tria and Hesperus) that get afternoon shade, they do fine and bloom heavily. In fact they also are hardly watered- here in Seattle I would put tree peonies (including P. lutea) on the list of plants for dry shade!
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Dec 20, 2016 8:03 PM CST
I had started some seeds of lutea ludlowii--but no germination.
Will try again or look for plants.

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