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bleedingheart
Jan 2, 2017 4:05 PM CST
Hello,

I'm just wondering, if i get bleeding heart seeds that come 5 or 10 per pack - is one pack good enough to ensure germination, or is it best to get multiple packs of 5 or 10?

Thank you so much and happy 2017.

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sallyg
Jan 2, 2017 4:42 PM CST
I haven't grown them from seed. They are usually sold here as dormant roots in spring along with some other summer bulbs in a small box/bag with sawdust. They develop thick roots that can withstand being dried and replanted.
Normal bleeding hearts self sow for me once established so I suppose germination is pretty good but that is with seed falling right where it will grow.
Just in case: would caution you against buying seed over the internet from overseas. I've seen many either wrong seed or did not grow and local weeds grew instead.
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Bonehead
Jan 2, 2017 4:59 PM CST
I live in the temperate Pacific NW. I don't find that bleeding hearts reseed themselves for me, but they do grow well and I find them easy to divide in the spring for more plants. No experience growing them (or much of anything) from seed, so no help there.
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woofie
Jan 3, 2017 12:13 PM CST
I tried growing them from seed, a couple of different varieties, with no luck at all. Zero germination. Maybe the seeds just weren't viable.
Are you aware that the seeds need a cold period before they will germinate?
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Weedwhacker
Jan 3, 2017 6:32 PM CST
My "old-fashioned bleeding hearts" self-sow like crazy... but I tried collecting seed and planting it later on, both by direct sowing and winter-sowing, with no luck at all. (I do save other seeds, and start a lot of other things from seed successfully.) Shrug!
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woofie
Jan 3, 2017 6:37 PM CST
I have one big one that has been since before we moved here (17 years ago) and it has never self-seeded. Wish it would, I'd like a couple more.
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sallyg
Jan 3, 2017 8:35 PM CST
Seems like the self sowing is an East of the Continental Divide thing..lol. I edited my answer to say 'for me' they self sow. Self sowing here means fresh seed falls in dirt right away and gets cold moist stratification, it may be it needs several cycles of cold, or something specific to germinate. It's sounding like it doesn't grow consistently from seed.
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dirtdorphins
Jan 3, 2017 8:50 PM CST
They do self-sow west of the continental divide too; all of mine here in northern Utah are from my neighbor's volunteer seedlings. We do get some some solid cold periods!
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Philipwonel
Jan 4, 2017 8:41 AM CST
Put seeds in freezer for a couple or more weeks. If they need a cooling period. That should do it.

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daylilydreams
Jan 4, 2017 8:49 AM CST
I have not tried to grow them from seed, my established plants do self seed once in a great while. I like having the extra plants they make nice additions to the garden.
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Jan 4, 2017 11:36 AM CST
It certainly gets cold enough here for those seeds to get their fix (a nice toasty -9 this morning) and we generally have snow from November to April at the least. I think my plant just hates me and knows I want more. Hilarious!
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Bonehead
Jan 4, 2017 1:40 PM CST
I get the little native bleeding hearts all over, they must self-sow readily as I tend to pull them out when they get scrappy looking yet they always come back - picking their own spots!
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Weedwhacker
Jan 4, 2017 4:02 PM CST
Woofie, maybe you are just keeping your garden bed too neat and inadvertently digging up the babies?

Deb -- do you get both white-flowered and pink-flowered seedlings? I'm (fairly) sure I started with just a couple of pink-flowered plants, but have always gotten both kinds of seedlings. Or maybe I actually did start with a white-flowered plant, too; it's been a long time ago Rolling my eyes. . At any rate, it's easy to tell what color the flowers will be even when the seedlings are quite small; the pink-flowered ones have leaves that are a darker green and the stems have a reddish tint.
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Bonehead
Jan 4, 2017 7:25 PM CST
The ones that self propogate for me are the native Dicentra formosa which is a much smaller plant (perhaps 8" tall) with a small lavender flower. Not nearly as showy as spectabilis, which I see has now been moved from Dicentra to Lamprocapnos. Hard to keep up with the name changes... Formosa does not mind being pulled totally out of the ground (comes out quite easily) and either some roots remain or it has already self sown. It grows in shade, usually as an understory to other plants or shrubs. I really like it, but treat it more as a spring ephemeral. Reminds me of johnny jump up - shows up where it wants rather than where you've planted it. It came from soils we brought in from our back woods when we first were laying out garden beds, and has moved around at its own discretion since then.

Bleeding Heart (Lamprocapnos spectabilis)
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Bonehead
Jan 4, 2017 7:27 PM CST
The ones that self propogate for me are the native Dicentra formosa which is a much smaller plant (perhaps 8" tall) with a small lavender flower. Not nearly as showy as spectabilis, which I see has now been moved from Dicentra to Lamprocapnos. Hard to keep up with the name changes... Formosa does not mind being pulled totally out of the ground (comes out quite easily) and either some roots remain or it has already self sown. It grows in shade, usually as an understory to other plants or shrubs. I really like it, but treat it more as a spring ephemeral. Reminds me of johnny jump up - shows up where it wants rather than where you've planted it. It came from soils we brought in from our back woods when we first were laying out garden beds, and has moved around at its own discretion since then.

Pacific Bleeding Heart (Dicentra formosa)
Bleeding Heart (Lamprocapnos spectabilis)

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sallyg
Jan 4, 2017 8:08 PM CST
Mine are spectabilis
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woofie
Jan 4, 2017 9:55 PM CST
I'm sure mine is spectabilis and I had no idea they had changed it's name. I also have a couple of formosa; it will be interesting to see if they decide to multiply. They've only been here a year or two, so we shall see.
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dirtdorphins
Jan 4, 2017 11:58 PM CST
Well Simone, maybe you ought to get multiple packs just in case Smiling

Darn reclassifications, thanks for letting us know Deb, I love those little formosas! had 'em all over the place where I used to live Thumbs up

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