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Name: Ginny G
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Legalily
Apr 5, 2017 6:04 PM CST
And before you throw anything try gifting to someone or a local garden nodding nodding (By-the-way you said "handwriting on the wall" previously and I'll be darned if that isn't the name of one of my daylilies Whistling Whistling Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
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Apr 6, 2017 6:59 PM CST
Wow, Ginny! And 'Handwriting on the Wall' was even an AHS honorable mention winner. It's definitely a winner! Yep, if I decide to divest myself of any of them, I'll offer them here first of all!
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Name: Ginny G
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Legalily
Apr 6, 2017 8:01 PM CST
We've been known to buy a few on here Whistling Whistling Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
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Barbalee
Apr 7, 2017 9:10 AM CST
Good golly! I can't bank on no more frosts, and bloom season isn't expected until June here (far NW Texas), but I have my very first scape showing! It's on 'Paper Butterly,' and it'll be the first bloom I see on it if it makes it!
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Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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Legalily
Apr 7, 2017 12:19 PM CST
Gorgeous!!!!! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
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Name: Tabitha
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madrid2000
Apr 19, 2017 5:49 AM CST
I am just beginning my collection of daylilies and brought 22 named daylilies to the home and 2.2 acres we bought in December. Only daylily people would understand bringing so many potted plants with me and DH was understanding. I have had to downsize stuff in the house, but have more "yard room." When selecting new daylilies, what is your minimum size and bud count? Other than color and desired shape, what do you look at when adding new ones? It would be hard for me to give up a daylily. They are so pretty, but I understand simplifying life.
Name: Stan
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Apr 19, 2017 6:10 AM CST
Someone call a doctor, STAT! Tabitha been bitten by the bug. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

@madrid2000
I would say that for me it varies day to day. Recently I have been after patterned daylilies and scored some real nice ones on the Lilly Auction D'Oh! That place is as addictive as collecting daylily's. so be careful, ask Ginny @Legalily. Size, bud count, height I haven't really paid close attention too. Fragrance is a biggie for me at times. So again, it all varies pending on my taste of the day. Apologies for the scatter brained answer. Whistling

Most of my daylilies are older varieties that were given to me by family and some wonderful folks here. A few in my collection, I purchased because I thought they were good buys. I have yet to be bitten so hard by the Hemeorholic bug that I have jumped in the deep end o f the pool and purchased new introductions at introductory prices. I have a hard enough time getting forgiveness for the DW for what I sneak in right now. Hilarious!
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Apr 19, 2017 6:57 AM CST
madrid2000 said: When selecting new daylilies, what is your minimum size and bud count? Other than color and desired shape, what do you look at when adding new ones? It would be hard for me to give up a daylily. They are so pretty, but I understand simplifying life.


Most of my daylilies are fairly recent purchases, with my goal being to acquire a total of 200 named cultivars. It will take you a little while working with daylilies to discover the type, color, etc. that you prefer. You will probably find that your taste change over time, so my advice is that when starting out you don't try to specialize but seek a variety of different colors, heights, forms, etc.
That way you get to sample a little of everything available. In order to do that my number 1 piece of advice is to make value the first priority when selecting daylilies. I would advise starting with a few cheaper plants so you get a feel for how they do in your new location. No need to buy expensive plants and then watch them underperform or even die. Learn how your soil and the plants perform then work your way up the ladder of higher priced daylilies as you see fit. Now I am not going to advise you to just stick with $5 dollar and below priced daylilies, but there are a lot of really good "garden" daylilies in that price range that should not be overlooked. I guess I am still trying to figure out what my preferences are because my new selections are pretty varied in color, height, form, and foliage habit. Still, none of my most recent selections were over $20 dollars and the most I have paid for a daylily so far has been $25,00 (so far the four $25.00 ones I purchased are not high on my list of favorites).
My recent experience has taught me not to be too reliant on stats, as far as bud count and branching go. They are not the only determining factors in performance of the plants in the garden. Right now high on my list of favorites in the garden based on garden performance is 'Filled With Joy' and the stats on it show a bud count of 10-15 and three way branching, not very impressive, but it would be a huge mistake to judge the number of blooms provided by this plant in a year by those stats. The scape count has been remarkable to me last year and again this year it looks like this daylily will crank out the blooms for a long time.This is a recent photo I took of 'Filled With Joy' and I just received another plant that I ordered by the same hybridizer just hoping maybe its performance would be similar(it has similar unimpressive stats).This is early in the season, and just the second year for the plant in my garden.
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Unfortunately, this is the type of performance that will never show up looking at the stats provided in the database. So you have to get feedback from other growers, one of the most important ways of finding out how a plant will perform. Keep in mind that some plants seem to perform very well over a wide range of geographic areas while others seem to be very limited in the zones they excel in.
This post could extend for pages I guess, but my advice is vist as many gardens as you can to see how the plants actually look and perform in the garden(something I need to do a lot more of) do the research, stick to a budget, and enjoy all the different aspects of growing daylilies. Don't let it overload you and become a chore instead of a pleasure. That is why I sat a limit of 200 for my goal, it was not a random number picked out of the air. But it is based on the time and energy I have to allot to the daylilies and the amount of involvement I want to have with them. For the fist few years I want to keep close tabs on them and learn each one as an 'individual", I want to be able to name any plant in my garden and be able to know where it is, how it looks and how it performs in my garden (not sure as I get older I can do that even with just 200). Give yourself time to learn what it is you like about growing daylilies and then develop goals that best suit you.
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
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Barbalee
Apr 19, 2017 7:05 AM CST
"Just 200" still seems like a lot of memory! But good for you on setting a limit. I have a few over 200 and am looking at culling since they're way overplanted and much more than I can remember details on!
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Name: Stan
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GaNinFl
Apr 19, 2017 7:10 AM CST
Great advice Larry.

I forgot to mention that before I buy a new daylily, I look for the photo and performance reports as close to my location as possible. I compare photos posted here to the photo listed by the seller.
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Name: Virginia Harmon
Woodside, CA 94062 (Zone 8b)
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VHarmon
Apr 19, 2017 10:44 AM CST
madrid2000 said: When selecting new daylilies, what is your minimum size and bud count? Other than color and desired shape, what do you look at when adding new ones?


Bud count and scape height are both important to me ,as is rebloom. If a DL isn't recurrent it isn't an improvement by my consideration. I have very limited space and want tall scapes that present blooms well. I refuse to acquire a DL with a bud count below 20, but prefer above 24. I intend to hybridize tall DLs with high bud count so low bc just doesn't fit my program.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Apr 19, 2017 11:05 AM CST
20 scapes with 15 buds would be 300 buds. Thirty buds on 6 scapes is only 180 buds. So I guess it really needs to be a combination of not only bud count and branches but total blooms. Rebloom is a big part in having more scapes, buds and blooms and is very important to me also. It certainly extends the length of the season with blooms.
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Polymerous
Apr 19, 2017 11:51 AM CST
I have to re-iterate what Larry said about seeing how things perform in your neck of the woods. The huge bud counts registered by hybridizers "down South" don't translate to such high numbers further north, even if that "further north" is still Zone 9, as we are. For that reason, I am somewhat jaundiced about bud count, in the sense that I try to ignore claims of 35+ buds.

On the other hand, I do try not to get daylilies with lower bud counts... but guess what... Some have found their way into the garden here anyway, and some of those I like enough that they are staying because of their other qualities (season(s) of bloom, bloom opening ability, eye zorching color, what have you). If you get a good sized clump going (and it is one of those daylilies which is not touchy about being crowded in a clump), then you have a lot of scapes with a lot of blooms, even if the individual scape bud count is low.

As for rebloom, I find that for myself, not every daylily here needs to be a rebloomer (so long as the non-rebloomers mostly have an adequate bud count (there are exceptions even to that rule)). By the time we are past the peak of daylily season, I am actually getting tired of the daily grind of deadheading lots of clumps. Now, I do want some rebloom, to keep the garden interesting into the early fall (thus for me, a later rebloom works out a bit better than an instant rebloom, although I like the instant sort too). I just don't want, or need, rebloom on everything - particularly when the rebloom occurs really late in the year, like in November or December, when the blooms haven't a chance of opening. D'Oh! What good is that?!

Thus, daylilies like 'Mary's Gold' (low bud count, does not rebloom) are still welcome here. (Her eye-zorching gold color on large blooms atop tall scapes is hard to beat!)



'Osterized' will long have a place here. (No rebloom, but the plant has terrific foliage, large blooms that always open well and are fragrant, and the clump gives me five weeks of dependable color.)



'One Fine Day' has been here for many years, and is not leaving anytime soon. (Low bud count, with shorter scapes than I like (but not disproportionate to the bloom size), but the clump blooms very reliably extra early with an early fall rebloom (thus a nice spacing of bloom, bracketing the main bloom and rebloom season), and the blooms open well even despite the colder nights at that time (hugely important here), and the plant has rock solid rust resistance.)



Thus, look beyond the bud count to the other qualities of the plant. Don't rule out non re-bloomers if they have qualities you really like. Don't automatically give a pass to re-bloomers, because rebloom on some plants comes at a time of year (for your area) when it is useless.
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Name: Kathy
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ocalagal
Apr 19, 2017 4:49 PM CST
I have gotten rid of a lot of daylilies (or they croaked) in the past few years, since I havent been able to spend enough time keeping up the beds. Now that Im back in the swing of things, I find I am not only buying new ones, but buying some of the older ones that I used to have. I know its weird, but its like re-acquainting with old friends. They are just familiar, and I just like them. Now there have been some that Ive jettisoned just for being bad plants....I hate it when blooms are all bunched up at the top, and I hate it when they bloom low in the foliage. So any of those wont stay. But I have kept a couple that are pretty much whiny wimpy plants, but the flower is oh so beautiful (Sabine Baur.....).
Name: Mike
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Apr 19, 2017 10:32 PM CST
@ocalagal Kathy I second Sabine Baur
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Name: Tabitha
Spring, TX (Zone 8b)
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madrid2000
Apr 20, 2017 5:53 AM CST
All but 1 of my named daylilies have come from a local guy who hybridizes as a hobby in his yard and once a year sells his extra plants to buy new plants for his hybridizing program. Unfortunately he retired and this will be his last yard sale. I have enjoyed buying from him because I know that all his DL should be good for this area and have decent performance or he wouldn't have let them stay and multiply in his garden.
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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Apr 20, 2017 6:40 AM CST
Lucky you, Tabitha! What a great way to get fabulous daylilies Hurray!
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Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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Legalily
Apr 20, 2017 6:54 AM CST
Seems I'm late to the party nodding I dug and moved around 300 perennials ( mostly daylilies) when I moved across town so tabitha I totally understand Rolling on the floor laughing And Stan is correct the LA is highly addictive but I've found some good prices nodding I tend to go with rebloom, bud count, when they bloom and definitely color. Sometimes (ok lots of times) the drool factor wins out Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Tabitha
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madrid2000
Apr 29, 2017 6:23 AM CST
It was like black Friday. Everything was gone in less than 5 minutes. I was able to get 7 of the 28 I liked. They are beautiful! I definitely have the bug!
Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Apr 29, 2017 7:16 AM CST
madrid2000 said:It was like black Friday. Everything was gone in less than 5 minutes. I was able to get 7 of the 28 I liked. They are beautiful! I definitely have the bug!


Sounds crazy! I am glad you got some of what you wanted Thumbs up
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