Mid Atlantic Gardening forum: Feb. 4 (Saturday) 2017 "Think Spring!!" Seed Swap in Frederick MD

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Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
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critterologist
Jan 4, 2017 5:54 PM CST
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Welcome to our TENTH annual seed swap!

The rumors are true... we have a date, and I've got us on the calendar at Chef Lin. Both "old hands" and new gardeners are welcome.

Please POST ON THIS THREAD to let me know you're planning to attend.

The thread "2017 "Think Spring!!" Seed Swap CHAT" in Mid Atlantic Gardening forum is our separate thread for seed/plant discussion and for information about the online seed swap tool. Please wait for the start date (TBA) before requesting/holding seeds from/for somebody. Even if you choose not to list your seeds on the tool, please use it to make requests from others who do.

This invite/info thread will be posted on the MAG forum at DG also, so all our Mid-Atlantic friends can participate. This is NOT the place to debate about your garden site preferences. Thanks!

I'll post a link to the swap tool once that's set up for this year's swap.

Date: Saturday, Feb. 4, 2017

TIME: noon to 4:30 pm

WHAT: lunch followed by seed swap party

WHERE: Frederick, MD, Chef Lin Buffet (scroll down to next post for directions)

WHO: DG and ATP members and their guests
(scroll down thread for list of party-goers)

COST: $15 (will double check this) in cash, please, per person
(inclusive: lunch buffet, hot tea or soft drink, tip, tax)
If you are definitely not having a soft drink, subtract $2
If you are 65 or over, subtract $1
Kids are $1.25 per year of age (the 25 cents goes toward tax & gratuity)

BRING: Extra seeds, either commercial or self-harvested. If you're going to split seeds into smaller packs, try to do that ahead of time, because it gets crazy! We'll have a "free to good home" pile also. Most seeds are viable 5 years or so, if stored dry & cool, but please don't offer seeds (even for the "free" pile) that are unlikely to sprout.

Rule of thumb: bring seeds that you would be happy to receive.

Most people bring a small item for the "gift table," which is sort of an expanded door prize thing that we like to do.

Most of all, bring your enthusiasm -- we're going to have a great time!

If you've never been to a Mid-Atlantic event, don't worry... we are a fun and casual group. Everybody brings their extra seeds to swap & share (it's very useful to make up little labeled packets ahead of time), everybody visits and talks, and everybody goes home with a nice selection of seeds to try! I wrote an article that may give you an idea about how this event goes: http://davesgarden.com/guides/....

Get to Frederick early so you can drop by Dutch Plant Farm, my favorite local nursery for winter visits. Joyanna's favorite bird, Pogo the Parrot, lives there. I wrote an article with photos that should give you an idea of what they are likely to have. http://davesgarden.com/guides/... I will try to arrange an "NGA Discount" for our group on that day, so please be sure to ask for it at the register. They'll be open 10 to 5. http://thedutchplantfarm.com/h...

We'll meet at noon or a little before at Chef Lin, a local Chinese buffet that's one of my favorite Frederick restaurants. First, we'll gather in the back room (12 to 12:30) to get name tags and put our "stuff" down. I'll have a tray with bags for putting in seeds or little goodies for everybody (your name will be on the bag, but please leave it where it is until you leave). There will be a "gift table" set up as well as some tables/chairs where you can leave your seeds for the swapping part of the afternoon.

Look for Sally -- the tall blond with the dazzling smile -- and give her your lunch money. $18 cash per person includes the buffet, tax & tip, and your choice of water, hot tea, or soft drink. You may subtract $2 if you do not order a soft drink, and subtract $1 if you're 65+. Let's make it easy on our waitstaff and on Sally by not getting extras like adult beverages or snow crab.

I know some folks might be on tight budgets, and we've all been there. If the cost of the meal might keep you from coming, please Dmail me, and we'll get you covered. I don't want anybody to miss out.

Space permitting, we'll eat at the tables in the rear of the restaurant. This will let us all eat together but be a little less cramped than in the past. As always, people are encouraged to change seats after they make another trip to the buffet, so they get a chance to talk to different people during the meal.

Around 2 pm, we'll change gears with an activity (TBA) before starting in on door prizes and seed swapping. If you have something you'd like to donate to the "gift table," please Dmail me or post that you're bringing an item (I don't need to know what; keeping a count just lets me ensure everybody gets a little something). Purchased items for the table are generally under $5. If you got a pair of too-small garden gloves for Christmas, or you have a pretty grapevine wreath you're just done with, or you have an extra rooting vase -- those are all wonderful gift table items!

We can get away with a few plants on the gift table, but "serious" plant trading will have to take place in the parking lot, maybe around 4. Small bagged plants and cuttings are OK to bring inside the restaurant.

We'll concentrate on seed swapping from 2:30 to 4:30 pm. Of course, seeds can be swapped outside of that time, and of course anybody who doesn't want to swap seeds can just keep chatting and visiting. I bet some of us will make a quick stop at Dutch Plant Farm after the swap, too!

Instead of our usual discussion and have/want thread for swapping, we will use the "Seed Swaps" tool here at NGA. It's not necessary to make any arrangements ahead of time, but it can be useful to see what people have and what they might be wishing for. If you have seeds sorted out ahead of time for people, you can "deliver" them into their goodie bags (like valentine mail boxes in grade school).

You won't miss out on seafood by skipping the snow crab; the Saturday buffet usually includes sushi, steamed shrimp & mussels, garlicky little steamed clams, flounder, clams/oysters on the half shell, fried fish/shrimp/scallops, semi-fried "pepper shrimp," sometimes steamed crabs, salmon, krab salad, and more. The hibachi grill lets you create your own combination of meats and vegetables, cooked for you on the spot.

The buffet also has everything from soups and stir-fries to fried chicken and mozzarella sticks... there's salad, fruit, and an expanded array of desserts. Ice cream lovers are in luck -- they now have a toppings bar as well as 3 ice cream stations: Hershey's ice cream cups & bars, hand-scooped ice cream, and choc/vanilla soft serve. There's a chocolate fountain (great selection of fruit & other dipping items) and even a cotton candy machine! Don't miss the hot little fried sugared doughnuts on the appetizer bar. The selection is remarkable, and even if you don't like Chinese food you'll find plenty of possibilities.

If you can't come but still want to swap seeds, please post here or on the seed swapping thread to ask somebody to volunteer to be your "seed fairy." You can use the ATP seed swap tool to participate, send your seeds and return postage to your person, and they'll send your seeds to you after the swap.

I had a blast at our previous seed swaps, and I'm so excited about this year's gathering!

THINK SPRING!

:-)

~ Critter (Jill)

GOOD NEWS! Dutch Plant Farm has just started their annual house plant sale. There should be some goodies left at swap time... Also, I have a coupon for $5 off! I'll print out extras, or tree-mail me with your email address and I'll forward one to you.
I'm learning to dance in the rain. Thank you, Sally & Chris & Sharon.
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Name: Susan
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Muddy1
Jan 4, 2017 5:58 PM CST
Thank You! You need to change the event date in the part you supercopied, my dear Group hug
But I will be there! Thanks!
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
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critterologist
Jan 4, 2017 6:03 PM CST
LOL, good catch... thought I'd edited that out already

DIRECTIONS to Chef Lin

The restaurant is in Prospect Plaza, at 417 S. Jefferson St,near a nest of interchanges where 15, 340, 40, and 270 all come together. This makes it both easy to get to from different directions, and hard to describe, but these directions worked well last year, LOL. McDonalds is at the front of the Plaza, easy to spot. Chef Lin is toward the center of this strip mall.

Combine these directions with a look at the map! (I failed to get a link... type 417 S Jefferson Frederick, MD into google, but don't try to follow the really confusing step by step directions, just use it for a map)

From the north, coming down 15 South. Get off at the Jefferson Street exit, turning LEFT (going east). Cross over the highway, and Prospect Plaza will be immediately on your LEFT (turn LEFT at the light).

From the south, along 15-340 North (the two highways merge together just south of Frederick): Stay on 340. (Don't get off onto 15 North when it diverges.) 340 more or less becomes Jefferson Street. Keep left. You'll cross the bridge over the highway, and then turn LEFT at the light into Prospect Plaza.

From the south, along 270N (coming up from the DC beltway): Get off at the Jefferson Street exit and turn RIGHT at the end of the ramp (east onto Jefferson). Make an immediate LEFT at the next light to turn into Prospect Plaza.

From the east (Baltimore), you'll be on 70 West. Take exit 53b, 15 North. Take the first exit onto Jefferson Street. Turn RIGHT at the end of the ramp (east onto Jefferson). Make an immediate LEFT at the next light to turn into Prospect Plaza.

From the west: you'll be on 70 East. Take the exit for 15 North. You're now on 15-340. Stay on 340. (Don't get off onto 15 North when it diverges.) 340 more or less becomes Jefferson Street. Stay to the left. You'll cross the bridge over the highway, and then turn left at the light into Prospect Plaza.

From Dutch Plant Farm (151 Baughmans Lane) to Chef Lin: Turn LEFT onto 40 East. Take the first RIGHT onto 15 South. Take the first exit, Jefferson Street. Turn LEFT onto Jefferson Street, cross over the highway, and then turn LEFT at the light into Prospect Plaza.

Getting to DPF. Dutch Plant Farm is off "the Golden Mile," highway 40, W Patrick St. At the corner of 40 and Baughman's Lane, there's a shopping center with a JoAnn's. DPF is just behind the shopping center. Coming from 15 onto 40W, you'd turn RIGHT at the first light onto Baughmans Lane and then take the 2nd entrance on the LEFT into DPF. (The 1st left is the side entrance into the shopping plaza.)
I'm learning to dance in the rain. Thank you, Sally & Chris & Sharon.
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
We're all learners, doers, teachers
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critterologist
Jan 4, 2017 6:03 PM CST
POTENTIAL PARTY PEOPLE (and lunch costs)
aspenhill $15
Buttoneer & Bobbin (Judy & Bob), $24~~**
Critter~ & Joyanna (7)~ ($22)
Catmint20906 & DD ($30)
Donnerville
Frenchy21 $15
gitagal~* $12
greenthumb99* & ecnalg *~$14, $12
5601Lisa~ $13
Martina (maybe), DD Sarah (for sure)
MariposaMaid
RickM!~ & LarryK~* $13, $12
Robinbunch5
Sallyg & Mark
Shy_Gardener~ $13.00..
tantefrancine *~ $12
Theresa (Critter's friend) $15


$15 for lunch (water and/or hot tea, tax, tip, no snow crab)
~ $2 discount for "no soft drink"
* $1 senior discount


I'm learning to dance in the rain. Thank you, Sally & Chris & Sharon.
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Name: Rick Moses
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Jan 5, 2017 11:36 AM CST
RickM & LarryK (1 Adult, 1 Senior)

Jill, you also need to check your pricing. It's different between top and bottom of post.
Name: Lisa Olson
Washington DC (Zone 7a)
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5601Lisa
Jan 5, 2017 11:45 AM CST
I'll be there.
Name: David
Lucketts, Va (Zone 7a)
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greenthumb99
Jan 5, 2017 9:11 PM CST
Pat and I plan to attend.
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Name: Gita Veskimets
Baltimore or Nottingham MD-212 (Zone 7a)
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gitagal
Jan 5, 2017 9:11 PM CST
I plan to be there--(one Senior) riding with Sally--as usual.

Question--
Seems the price has gone up somewhat. From $12-$18.
From your food description--it sounds more like a Sunday menu. (more $$).

It seems more like the Sunday dinner price we had. The swap is on Saturday. ???????
Did you forget to adjust the cost list, Jill--- from when we went there for a Sunday dinner???

No biggie if the cost actually is $18. Just wondering...... Gita
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
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critterologist
Jan 6, 2017 9:34 AM CST
I did include a parenthetical note that I needed to double-check the cost... I should have left it blank, LOL. Yes, the $18 was last year's cost for Sunday brunch, and yes I expect the cost to be a couple dollars less for Saturday lunch... however, I do not know offhand if prices have gone up since last year. (We go often, but usually on weekdays.) I appreciate that you want to help me get all the details right, but don't sweat the small stuff just yet please.
I'm learning to dance in the rain. Thank you, Sally & Chris & Sharon.
Name: Terri
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aspenhill
Jan 8, 2017 7:03 AM CST
Count me in.
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
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critterologist
Jan 9, 2017 8:36 AM CST
Will do!

I started adding something about the cost, then deleted it, then decided I should address Gita's concern. The cost didn't go up $6 last year when we did Sunday brunch... in 2015 it was $15 (including soda). $12 several years back didn't include a drink. I started "rolling in" the price of a soft drink because otherwise we'd come up a little short. I'll check with Donna this week to get the current pricing. We do tip generously for this event, because they take good care of us and let us use both the main restaurant area and the back room.

So right now the $ amount is a "placeholder," just like Sally's name -- if she's unable to come or would like somebody else to be the money person this year, we'll put somebody else's name there!
I'm learning to dance in the rain. Thank you, Sally & Chris & Sharon.
Name: David
Lucketts, Va (Zone 7a)
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greenthumb99
Jan 9, 2017 1:07 PM CST
Jill, on the seed swap tool the event date is currently listed as Feb 6th, which is a Monday.
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Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
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critterologist
Jan 10, 2017 2:25 PM CST
Thx. Those dates were hiccupping like crazy the day I was trying to set it up!
I'm learning to dance in the rain. Thank you, Sally & Chris & Sharon.
Name: Critter (Jill)
Frederick, MD (Zone 6b)
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critterologist
Jan 10, 2017 2:28 PM CST
BTW, please do NOT pay any attention to the long list of dates associated with the swap on the swap tool... those deadlines for seeds to be sent, mailed out, etc. are all intended for use with a mail-in swap. They don't apply to us!

We only need to be concerned with
Jan 20: swapping begins, with 1 "ticket" or "dib" per person
Feb. 4: seed party day!

(thanks for catching the wrong date in the subject line, David!)
I'm learning to dance in the rain. Thank you, Sally & Chris & Sharon.
Name: Donner
Damascus, MD (Zone 7a)
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Donnerville
Jan 10, 2017 8:06 PM CST
Thank you, Jill! This is so exciting!!! I have been thinking that it was about time for us to get the event planning going! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! I am definitely attending, and have seeds to contribute too (for a change, haha!).

Looking forward to seeing everybody!

Name: Sally
central Maryland
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Jan 11, 2017 6:37 AM CST
Count us in, me and Mark.
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Name: Gita Veskimets
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gitagal
Jan 11, 2017 7:08 AM CST
Sally--Can I ride up with you...again? Let me know if you need any goodies from Richardsons.

I have not added any new stuff to my "BIG BOX"--but I will have a shoe-box-full of new seeds from this summer.
Will fill you all in later...
If there are new people at the swap--they may enjoy digging through my BIG BOX. Lots of goodies
still there...just a couple years old... Rolling my eyes. I will bring it...just leave it on a chair.
Gita
Name: Judy
Mid Atlantic Coastal Plain USA (Zone 7b)
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MariposaMaid
Jan 11, 2017 8:23 AM CST
Sally, if you will have me and/or my seeds ride along I'll hope to make it.

I've just finished the Not From the Seed Rack seed swap here and have some cool new tomato seeds to share.
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Name: Frenchy
Falls Church, VA (Zone 7b)
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Frenchy21
Jan 11, 2017 11:27 AM CST
Count me in. Can't wait to see everyone again Green Grin!
Name: Robin Bunch
Odenton, Maryland (Zone 7a)
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robinbunch5
Jan 11, 2017 11:41 AM CST
I will be there of course.
Sally? Got room in the car for one more?

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