Seeds forum: New, inexpensive brand of heat mat

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Name: woofie
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woofie
Jan 28, 2017 11:26 AM CST
Yes, I use the foam under the mats in my greenhouse, too. My experience has been that the small mats don't need a controller; they seem to work just fine as is. The larger ones, the 4 tray size, seem to work better with a controller. And yes, the Hydrofarm mats are very good. I have a bunch of the small ones and two of the big ones that I've had for several years and all are working fine. Well, at least they were last year. Heh, my GH door is damaged to the point that I can't open it, and we can't fix it till this spring or summer, so I have no idea what shape they're in right now. Which is why I now have a shiny new (cheap!) big heat mat upstairs. Smiling
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Jan 28, 2017 11:27 AM CST
Danita, that is an interesting idea! Wonder if you can buy those this time of year.
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Name: Danita
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Danita
Jan 28, 2017 12:05 PM CST
Hmm, I'm not sure. It might be good to check out the After-Christmas clearance sales next year, though. nodding
Name: David Laderoute
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DavidLMO
Jan 28, 2017 4:19 PM CST
@woofie

Just wondering why you would want heat off when lights are on and vice-versa?

In nature when the sun goes down, the Earth cools....

Only way I see you do that is two timers.

If I am doing tropical seeds, I leave the heat on 24 x 7. For most other seeds, when the lights go off, the heat goes off.

Under my heat mats I also use the insulating foam that has a silver film on it. Cut to size and place the heat mats on the silver lining.

Once I have at least one set of tur leaves, I usually move off heat mats and use them for other seeds.
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Jan 29, 2017 10:16 AM CST
Well, it's really more like I turn the heat off when the sun comes up because otherwise they get too hot.

But the lights come on earlier than that and stay on later because I'm up north and there's not a whole lot of light this time of year.

So a photoelectric timer probably isn't the best answer. But the lights do provide some heat, so maybe.
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Name: Michelle
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MrsBinWY
Jan 31, 2017 10:08 PM CST
A day-night alternating timer might work for people who want to turn something off when something else comes on. We bought one to control the lights on an aquarium. I don't see the exact one we have, but here's a link to give an idea of what I mean:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/...
Name: woofie
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woofie
Feb 1, 2017 10:07 AM CST
Now that is an interesting gadget! Thanks for the tip!
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Feb 5, 2017 11:36 AM CST
Well, I think I'm guardedly going to give this new heat mat and controller a thumbs-up. Can't beat the price and it seems to be working very well. It is still a bit rippled but not so much that it's a problem. My only real complaint so far is that it took so long for it to get as flat as it is, but that could be partly my fault because I didn't have a large flat surface to put it on initially. The controller is easy to use and has a digital readout that makes it easy to select a specific temperature. Nice heavy duty cords, too.
And I do believe I see a couple of tomato seedlings poking their heads up this morning. Smiling
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Name: Yardenman
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Yardenman
Feb 11, 2017 3:05 AM CST
Not to make something important seem too simple, but I bought a cheap 4 shelf rack to place upstairs where the temp stays around 75 over the floor vent for germination and then I move the flats to the basement light rack where it is about 65 for seedling growth.

And even there, the lights below each shelf add some warmth. I could get into my light rack, but I suspect that is another forum.
Name: Linda
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mom2goldens
Feb 11, 2017 7:53 PM CST

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Hi, Yardenman:

Feel free to start a new thread to share your light systems. We all love to see what our fellow gardeners use to start seeds. We can all learn from each other.

Linda
Name: Rick Moses
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RickM
Feb 11, 2017 8:05 PM CST
MrsBinWY said:A day-night alternating timer might work for people who want to turn something off when something else comes on. We bought one to control the lights on an aquarium. I don't see the exact one we have,
but here's a link to give an idea of what I mean.


That looks like a great solution! I may have to buy a couple of them for various uses around the house.

Thanks!
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Name: Michelle
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MrsBinWY
Feb 11, 2017 9:40 PM CST
When I went back to school and was trapped in an apartment, my gardening was mostly restricted to fish tanks. In no way did that eliminate the usual gardening problems, like wish lists exceeding space, time, energy, money, etc. Hilarious!

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Name: Mary
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Pistil
Feb 14, 2017 10:35 PM CST
Well that was a lovely garden! And I see someone else found the warm spot over the lights!
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
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Yardenman
Feb 17, 2017 9:13 AM CST
mom2goldens said:Hi, Yardenman:

Feel free to start a new thread to share your light systems. We all love to see what our fellow gardeners use to start seeds. We can all learn from each other.

Linda
I'll have to see what pictures I have. But I'll be glad to show what I've got.

Name: woofie
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woofie
Feb 17, 2017 9:27 AM CST
Yeah, a new thread showing other people's lighting setups would be good! Not that I'm concerned about this one getting hijacked (who me? I NEVER get off topic in threads! Whistling ) But it would certainly make it easier for people to find ideas for lighting. Smiling
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McCannon
Feb 17, 2017 9:46 AM CST
And post a link to the new thread please Smiling .
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Name: Sandi
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Seedsower
Feb 18, 2017 5:21 AM CST
I know they're expensive, but I have had a couple of these for probably 15 years (bought them from my SIL's rummage sale, she had bought them for her hubby to stand on to keep his feet warm while working on projects in the garage during winter). The one below is 90W, they also sell 135W model although it is more expensive.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ind...

They look VERY similar to these, sold for different purposes at different prices! Whistling

http://www.greenhousemegastore...

I also have one of the IPower mats but love the foot warmers so much more. They are THICK, rubber, and although no temp control, they put out a lot of heat.

Getting anxious to start some seeds! Unheard of temps for the next five or so days...in the low 60's in February in zone 5. Crazy!

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