Peonies forum: Weird Weather and Signs of Spring, 2017

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Name: Gary Ray
North Carolina (Zone 7b)
graycrna4u
Jan 25, 2017 6:21 PM CST
2 weeks ago we were under 12 inches of snow. Today, 70 degrees, sunny, and I am out weeding the flower beds. Here is what I found

My Lan Bao Shi Tree Peony is beginning to leaf out already. If you click on the pic and enlarge it, on the right you will see the growth from the scion.

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The Kopper Kettle root from Michigan Bulb that planted at end of October is already leafing out. The new growth is about 6 inches tall.

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Weather forecast is for potential snow this upcoming weekend. My experience is as long as they have no buds, the new growth will be fine. Anxiously awaiting spring, 2017.
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
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Jasmin
Jan 25, 2017 6:27 PM CST
What temperature zone is that? Is there any chance of deep freeze, something like -20C, in your area?

"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."~Albert Einstein
Name: Gary Ray
North Carolina (Zone 7b)
graycrna4u
Jan 25, 2017 6:35 PM CST
7b; no extremes here. Everything above 0. And loving it.
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
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Jasmin
Jan 25, 2017 7:31 PM CST
Lucky you! Your peonies will be OK.

We are enjoying rather mild winter. Not a lot of snow and only two polar vortex events in December. January has been very mild, so that I have started cleaning the garden. No more than -5C daytime. Hope it will continue this way. Although February may be the coldest month of the year, the long term forecast is OK.

Peonies can tolerate cold when they are dormant. Last year mine had started forming flower buds, when we got more than a foot of snow. This is my garden in April 2016.
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Even Forsythia buds got frozen, and my two Forsythia bushes hardly bloom last year, which is unheard of. It has never happened in 17 years while I live in this house. The Snow Lotus flower buds were already big, perhaps an inch in diameter. Fortunately, the snow didn't last. The flower buds wilted a bit, but they recovered within a week. Only one of the flowers had something like frostbites. You can see it here - the flower in the middle.

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Hope we will not be paying for this mild winter in April or May Crossing Fingers!
"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."~Albert Einstein
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Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
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LizinElizabeth
Jan 25, 2017 8:59 PM CST
I've come to expect weekly or bi-weekly snows in April and May with 70F days between storms....one of these years we're going to have a mild spring with no hail.....Excited to see signs of spring here on the forum, though! All of mine are still under ice.
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Name: LG
Nashvillle (Zone 7a)
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Mieko2
Jan 25, 2017 9:12 PM CST
I guess we just have to roll with this Weather. I just hope we don't get a freeze when the peonies are budded out.
LG -I have a little garden in which to walk and immensity in which to dream.
Name: Anya
Fairbanks, AK (Zone 3b)
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anyagoro
Jan 26, 2017 12:45 AM CST
Peonies show growth in mid-May in my garden, and once spring comes there are no frosts, usually from late April until mid-September on our hill. There is a slightly different story for gardens in lower areas though.
Name: LG
Nashvillle (Zone 7a)
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Mieko2
Feb 1, 2017 8:42 PM CST
Here's a sign of Spring. I took this yesterday evening. I found 3 or 4 other clumps with blooms today.
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LG -I have a little garden in which to walk and immensity in which to dream.
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Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
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LizinElizabeth
Feb 1, 2017 11:28 PM CST
We're looking at property in northern Alabama for possible retirement, zones 7A and 7B. You guys are making me want to move now! My beds are still under ice, even though we had 60+ degree weather 2 days this week. I'll take a pic and post it on Friday when I'm off, you guys will feel as sorry for me as I do for myself.... Sighing!
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Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Feb 2, 2017 8:01 AM CST
Liz, I am glad you will be moving to a warmer zone someday. You can see things starting to grow much sooner in zone 7 and 8 and they are such a lift to the spirits.

No daffodils for me yet! Just snowdrops and hellebores are starting to bloom.

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Here's my Berry Garcia from MB. Probably won't see a flower until next year.
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Name: LG
Nashvillle (Zone 7a)
Peonies Hummingbirder Hostas Region: Tennessee Butterflies Garden Photography
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Mieko2
Feb 2, 2017 8:45 AM CST
Liz, I hope you check out Huntsville area. It has such a good reputation as a desirable retirement location. The botanical garden there is fabulous... I could see you volunteering there!

I do feel sorry for you as your peonies seem to get hit multiple times with bad weather!

Karen I love snowdrops and hellebores. They perk me right up.
LG -I have a little garden in which to walk and immensity in which to dream.
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Feb 2, 2017 8:48 AM CST
It all balances out.
As our Spring bulbs bloom-southern zones' are over.
Same with peonies---ours are blooming when southern zones' are over.
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Name: LG
Nashvillle (Zone 7a)
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Mieko2
Feb 2, 2017 8:50 AM CST
I agree Caroline. My peonies are done and then I get to enjoy all the pix of the Northern peony season! It really is nice.
LG -I have a little garden in which to walk and immensity in which to dream.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
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LizinElizabeth
Feb 2, 2017 9:35 PM CST
I enjoy having a different bloom time than most as well, Caroline. The pictures here make the anticipation even better for when mine bloom! I'd be happy if our springs were more stable, though--those late spring blizzards and crazy hail--you'll rarely see a whole plant pic from me because the foliage always gets so beaten up. And what I wouldn't give to be able to grow huge beefsteak tomatoes again....anything over 65 days here is a waste of time because they'll never ripen.
LizB
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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kousa
Feb 5, 2017 9:26 AM CST
Wow, we have a warm spell coming! Temps are going to be in the 50's. If the forecast predicted for Feb plays out, it will be one of the milder Feb that I can remember. With this wave of mild weather, I am expecting my early spring bulbs to pop up soon. I am so glad that I was able to mulch my beds this winter with wood chips. Otherwise my beds will be plagued with all sorts of weeds if the soil is left exposed.
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
Hummingbirder Cat Lover Lilies Daylilies Dog Lover Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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LizinElizabeth
Feb 5, 2017 10:21 AM CST
Our's is the same, 40s through 60s for the next 10 days. My wintersown containers will have to go in the fridge for their cold period! Or they would if I had them in containers already, still to do, hopefully today. I only have a few this year so can fit them easily for several weeks if necessary.
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Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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kousa
Feb 5, 2017 10:29 AM CST
Liz, that sounds wonderful weather! Hope you will be able to do some gardening chores during this warm up. I hope to use this warm spell to start preparing a new border for new peonies coming this fall. Do your seeds need a cold period to germinate? Why do you have to put them in the fridge?
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
Hummingbirder Cat Lover Lilies Daylilies Dog Lover Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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LizinElizabeth
Feb 5, 2017 11:20 AM CST
I'm mainly wintersowing candy lily, 2nd try. Last Feb/March weather was like this as well, not a lot of snow and warm temps, and the candy lily I tried didn't germinate at all. I'm thinking they need more of a cold period than outside provided last year, looking at ways to keep them colder. I might just do the baggie thing like the cold period for peony seed...need to do more specific research before I try it, though!
LizB
Toronto, Ontario (Zone 5b)
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Jasmin
Feb 6, 2017 3:44 PM CST
Canadian groundhogs predicted an early spring Rolling on the floor laughing

http://globalnews.ca/news/3221...

I had better sharpen my shovels and get ready for some serious work Rolling on the floor laughing
"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."~Albert Einstein
Name: Anya
Fairbanks, AK (Zone 3b)
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anyagoro
Feb 6, 2017 5:56 PM CST
I hope Alaska will follow the Canadian forecast Thumbs up

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