Classifieds and Group Buys forum: Beware of thief, posting on the forum

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Argeles sur Mer . South of Fra
Jan 28, 2017 9:33 AM CST
Beware of Allen Luther from Cameron , that has made few posts on this forum:
- Strophanthus seeds available
- Exotic cycads seeds available ( posted by (Exoticycads )on the forum
His company is called Plant & ethno supply & specialised in herbal extracts, & is named as Gratusfarm.
Do not trade with this thief , & do pass the info to others....!
Sorry to be out of the subjet.....
But , just fought it would be usefull to other members and so , not to be conned like I've been...!!
Name: Sandy B.
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Jan 28, 2017 4:27 PM CST
Not sure what to think of this... @Dave ?
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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Jan 28, 2017 6:03 PM CST Admin

Every member makes their own reputation. Dominique told me privately that he was scammed by this member, and he asked if he should post to the forums about it to warn others.

I'm not getting involved, of course, but given that this alleged scammer has posted on this same forum, it seems good to get all sides of the story.
Name: Lin
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Jan 29, 2017 11:44 AM CST
Yes, there was a posting August 2015 The thread "Rare cycad seeds available for sale" in Classifieds and Group Buys forum but he never came back to respond to questions asked.
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springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
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Jan 29, 2017 5:24 PM CST
I always get leery when I see the word 'rare'. Uh hmmm. That is usually the code word to flee!
Name: Susan B
East Tennessee (Zone 6b)
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Feb 1, 2017 8:11 AM CST
I consider some of the plants I grow 'rare' because you can't buy them in a nursery or garden center (usually, that is). I'm always on the lookout for something odd or unusual.
Then again things like Plumeria or other tropicals are considered rare in this area because they're not grown here.
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Name: greene
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Feb 7, 2017 2:09 PM CST
It was my understanding that here on NGA and AllThingsPlants before that, we were to give only positive information about the sellers. Yes, that's on the Green Pages, but wasn't it asked a long time ago about negative feedback and didn't one or more of the Whitinger family say we wanted to keep things positive? There was some discussion here: The thread "Gardening Recommendations" in Site Talk forum

It would appear that Dominique joined NGA for the express purpose of slamming a supposed scammer (just my opinion). I'd be curious to know if Dominiquecordonnier made his purchase from an offering here over a year ago on this site, or if he purchased his plants elsewhere on the internet. Since NGA member Exoticcycads has not been around here for about 17 months, I am guessing it may be the latter. To my way of thinking, Dominique maybe should be posting his opinion as a negative reference on the site where he actually made the purchase.

Is there any way to contact Exoticcycads so he can know he is being slammed on this site? It might be interesting to hear what he was to say about the purchase, whether it originated here or elsewhere.

Just my 2 cents. I tip my hat to you.
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springfield MO area (Zone 6a)
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Feb 7, 2017 2:43 PM CST
I don't see why it matters if he purchased something from a scammer on this site, another site or 10 other sites. The person he purchased from is the same person no matter where that took place. If I get ripped off at siteA I am going to find all the sites the scammer posts on, siteB and siteC and so forth, and warn others. I don't see any wrong doing there.
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Feb 8, 2017 8:05 PM CST
Tough call...To warn and protect others, or to open the floodgates to negative posts...
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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Feb 8, 2017 8:37 PM CST
That is a tough call. And who is to know what the other side of the story is?
Name: Susan B
East Tennessee (Zone 6b)
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Feb 9, 2017 8:32 AM CST
Having more details of the story might be beneficial. I don't know what mail service is like from Camaroon, but perhaps it is slow or perhaps customs doesn't allow shipments of plant material between those countries.
Name: Greg
Lake Forest Park, Washington (Zone 8b)
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Feb 17, 2017 10:31 AM CST
I'm still a beginner, but I always buy locally. Part of that is just me, I prefer dealing with people face-to-face when it comes to gardening. I often pick up tid-bits of information that add to my gardening education in the process.
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