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Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Nov 11, 2011 4:28 PM CST
I always have some mandevilla... as it's such a cooperative bloomer... I've had lots of them... I'm partial to the reds... and the white for night viewing... and I love the look of the new Sun Parasol's.. with it's deep red velvety flowers and the yellow throat color..
this year I planted a Ruby Star ? [ came unnamed ] in a container under a trellis in this garden I planted for the second time this year... after it was planted the first time... we had to remove everything and have the roof decking redone by the building... new roof and then the concerte pavers were suspended above it on these lifts in the corners of the sections of concrete... so we redid everything this year.. and the got a mandevilla... although they will just be leaving it there through the winter .. and getting another in the spring.. Does anyone want it... ?? village pickup only
anyway the reason I write.. is that the gardening info on them is as follows...
Do not over fertilize and force more flowers. This plant will not overwinter in temperatures under 65º F and flowering will slow down if temperatures are near 65º F
well it's deep falll here in NYC... we've already had a 5" snow fall...not bad considering the havoc it played as the storm moved up into CT and MA , VT... temperatures have been down pretty low.. after the snows... which stuck around for a few days... and seldom has it been what you'd call warm since.. although real nice after the snows..
Yesterday I was at the garden I mentioned.. getting some measurements for a marble sill ..and checked the garden to see how the springs work was weathering.. and about fell over ... the ruby star was there... up covering the structure I had sat it upon this spring... and not only was it doing well... but two weeks after the snows... it was in full bloom... dispite what the info site says.. is this a common behavior ??
anyone want a cold hardy mandevilla... sorry the photo quality is a bit sub par on the I Phone
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I was going to paste them together in a panarama but the machine seems to have lost the program..
Name: Sandi
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Nov 11, 2011 4:34 PM CST

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Name: Carol
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ctcarol
Nov 11, 2011 6:40 PM CST
Gordon, the 'sun parasol' series does well here down to freezing temps. It does stop blooming, and looses a few leaves, but it doesn't die....at least in the short term. Mine has been in a hanging basket on my porch for 5 years, so root bound it needs daily watering. Our nights have been in the low 40s and 50s for weeks now, with days ranging from 60 to 80, and it still has a few blooms.
Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Nov 11, 2011 11:48 PM CST
Thanks Sandi,,
Carol.. sun parasol sounds happy there... oh.. go ahead and repot it.. the coompany site lists it's cold hardyness as down to 45 before it stops flowering... mine looks sad after our weather.. not nearly as robust as the one here..
FYI.. that red buildiiing just behind it .. the top floor was sold..
six former rental apartments with the walls ripped out. These days it's all grown up, and soon its new owner will be taking up residence. The Observer confirms the earlier rumor that the new owner isAlec Baldwin, who recently gave up his place at Central Park West's El Dorado. Baldwin paid $11.7 million, a decent discount from the $12.5 million ask, for the 4,137-square-foot 3BR/4.5BA.

Name: Jonna
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extranjera
Nov 12, 2011 12:01 PM CST
Whoa! New York real estate prices can make your head spin. It doesn't sound like there has been too much of a fall in prices there.
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Name: Huggergirl AKA Tamar
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huggergirl
Nov 22, 2011 6:47 AM CST
I bought 2 Sun Parasol Giant Crimson Mandavilla`s this year,OH How they Grew and Bloomed. Well I live in Indiana Thumbs down They got frosted pretty hard ,I brought them in prunned them back took all the leaves off.Most were falling off .I have it in a room with 2 windows and its 60 degrees.Will it survive ,it is showing some new growth.Making sure it dosent dry out and not overwatering them.i soo hope I can get them to winterover. I love them so
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Name: Carol
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ctcarol
Nov 22, 2011 5:06 PM CST
If it's getting new growth, it will surely survive. That's a great picture of it!
Name: Holly
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HollyAnnS
Nov 23, 2011 7:53 AM CST
I usually have my Dad bring in his Mandevilla inside and let it go dormant in his basement for the winter. It had done well for him for the last few years. Only issue seems to be that it takes forever for it to start blooming again. Usually doesn't bloom until August. I have heard others say the same time about how long it seems for their Mandevilla's to start blooming after being in dormant winter storage.
Gordon your roof top gardens are just beautiful.
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Name: Evan
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Nov 23, 2011 11:06 PM CST

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Here here on your roof garden designs Gordon. I particularly like the highly organized yet chaotic feel to it all. Do you do this for living? I've loved roofscapes for a long time. Seeing someones green oasis in the distance was always intriguing, especially those which were thoughtfully done as yours clearly are.
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Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Nov 25, 2011 1:31 AM CST
Jonna..yes.. it's mostly on the upward climb here..I can remember $50 /mo rents.. that were reduced to $28 after I went to the city and had the rate checked... now the same place would be over $1000.. and a building I was offered for $95,000 had 5 floors and a store... the store alone would rent for $25,000/mo now
and each floor would coop @ about 2 mil.. like they said they aren't making Manhattan any more... although that's proven to be untrue.. as they have captured and filled miles of the river for housing and parks..
Tamara...lovely plant there PGCM is more of a bush/tree than a vine as others are
Holly.. well...thanks..
Evan.. Thanks.. yes it's pretty fully planted in the summer..
I hate fall.. but some things still bloom
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Name: Susan
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gardenersdetective
Apr 11, 2012 5:56 PM CST
Can anyone tell me the difference between Dipladenia and Mandevilla? I am looking for a thriller plant for a container with bright pink flowers and bushy (not a vine). We get a lot of tropicals in from Florida but honestly I don't think our local box stores or garden centers have a clue. They are just trying to make us plant shoppers happy. One option would be to put a trellis in the pot and go with a pink mandevilla if I can find something more bushy.
Name: Carol
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ctcarol
Apr 11, 2012 6:36 PM CST
Dipladenia and Mandevilla have been lumped together now. According to Sunset Western Garden Book "Mandevilla splendens, Dipladenia splendens, evergreen. Native to southeastern brazil. Compact, shrubby plant to 2 ft tall, 3ft wide; eventually starts to twine (to 15-20ft tall with support), but you can keep it bushy by pinching out climbing shoots. Varieties that are lower growing and shrubbier than the species are superb in hanging baskets include 'My Fair Lady' (White blooms), 'Red Riding Hood' (deep cherry red flowers), and 'Scarlet Pimpernel' (scarlet flowers). Similar in form is 'Strawberry Lemonade', with deep pink,yellow throated flowers. It's leaves are beautifully verigated in mint green, cream, and white, with pink flushes when young."
Hope this helps, Carol
Name: tarev
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tarev
Apr 11, 2012 7:22 PM CST
My Mandevilla is waking up from her slumber with all this spring rain we are getting. It did stay in bloom till end of November. Just happy to see it back Big Grin
Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Apr 11, 2012 7:37 PM CST
yes tarev... I brought mine in under a 500 watt HID light.. it did good till Feburary when it lost all it's leaves.. and seemed mostly dead.. then a few weeksago it started sprouting leaves... it went out early into a sheltered area in the sun... it might be a survivor after all...
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gardenersdetective
Apr 11, 2012 9:47 PM CST
Thanks Carol, I will be on the hunt for a 'Strawberry Lemonaide'. I think my local market just a couple of blocks away carries them in the summer. If that doesn't work I think I'll go for a pink hibiscus or yellow shrimp plant.
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huggergirl
Apr 12, 2012 5:42 AM CST
I thought my mandavilles were waking up...I had them in a bright cool room,leaves were gone already,and I had trimmed them back.They started to wake up,were doing ok..It started to warm up set them outside in a protected area...Now they are back inside ,because it got cold again..Now they dont look soo hot ...GRRR...still hoping.. my 1st year over wintering them. I soo LOVE THEM...They love HOT Sun,and bloom like crazy...HOPING..
Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Apr 12, 2012 5:49 AM CST
I'm watching this thread because I'm going to add a Mandevilla or two this year. I may have to just go with hanging pot and keep it smaller. Glare
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huggergirl
Apr 12, 2012 5:58 AM CST
I will be buying new ones if these croak... I love them...also I will figure out how to overwinter them the right way...

These were huge for 10.00 each,just flourished all summer an fall, lots of water an fertilizer. Seems Im always ;earning the hardway.. Hilarious!
Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Apr 12, 2012 6:08 AM CST
They had some gorgeous plants at WM last year ... I think they were $10. I kept wanting to buy one or two. This year I'll probably take the plunge. I can hang them in the garage over winter if they are in hanging pots. Floor space is at a minimum and I have to save a little path to walk from the the stairs to the garage door. Hilarious!

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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Apr 12, 2012 6:20 AM CST
This is what a friend did with hers last year. Sorry for the poor quality photos. Thumbs down

That was all I needed to encourage me to at least try one in a pot. Green Grin!



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