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Feb 6, 2017 1:58 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Grapevine, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I want a parent plant for plums. The genus Prunus contains many trees other than plums, though, so I need to narrow down these species.

Prunus domestica is the main plum species.

I also see some plums in our database under two other species, such as:

Mirabelle Plum (Prunus domestica subsp. insititia 'Nancy')
Plum (Prunus cerasifera Gypsy®)

And we have some cultivars that are simply listed with just the genus, like:

Plum (Prunus BlackIce®)

Are the insititia and cerasifera species valid? Should I make the parent plant cover all 3 of these species? And the ones that are on the genus level only, should we endeavor to find the right species for them and edit them?
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Feb 6, 2017 3:47 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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P. cerasifera and P. domestica are accepted names, but P. insititia is now a synonym for P. domestica subsp. insititia. I'll edit the entries with that name.
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Feb 6, 2017 3:59 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Grapevine, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Thank you zuzu Smiling

I setup The Plums Database and the parent plant contains all the matching species: Plums (Prunus umbellata)
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Feb 6, 2017 4:01 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Looks good. Do all plum trees have white blooms? No pinks?
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Feb 6, 2017 4:07 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Grapevine, Texas (Zone 8a)
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I removed white from the list. Thumbs up
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Feb 6, 2017 4:19 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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If we're looking for fruit trees I'd eliminate Prunus cerasifera, these are mostly ornamental trees.

Delete:
self fertile
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Feb 6, 2017 4:26 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
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But are we looking only for fruit trees? If I had a flowering plum that didn't bear fruit, I'd still want to look for it in the Plum Database.
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Feb 6, 2017 4:31 PM CST
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Grapevine, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Yeah, I was thinking we'd want to cover both flowering and fruiting varieties. I'll delete self fertile.
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Feb 6, 2017 4:41 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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OK.
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Feb 6, 2017 9:09 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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Shouldn't the Prunus salicina (Japanese) cultivars be included?
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Feb 7, 2017 7:18 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Grapevine, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Thanks Kent, I've added them. Thumbs up
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Feb 7, 2017 9:19 AM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator Plant Identifier Region: Nebraska Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Forum moderator Irises Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level
Probably should also add these species:

Prunus salicina var. pubipes
Prunus salicina var. salicina
Prunus americana
Prunus angustifolia
Prunus eremophila
Prunus geniculata
Prunus gracilis
Prunus havardii
Prunus hortulana
Prunus maritima
Prunus mexicana
Prunus murrayana
Prunus nigra
Prunus rivularis
Prunus subcordata
Prunus umbellata

and any cultivars associated with them.

With the exception of the first two (which are Japanese Plum varieties), those are just the North American species of plums. I don't know the Old World Prunus species well enough to say which are plums, which are cherries, etc.
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Feb 7, 2017 9:26 AM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator Plant Identifier Region: Nebraska Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Forum moderator Irises Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level
Might also want to remove the checkboxes for Water Preferences: Mesic and Underground Structures: Taproot.
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Feb 7, 2017 10:02 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Grapevine, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Garden Research Contributor Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level
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Thank so Kent, I will do these! Thumbs up
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