Plant Database forum: Splitting Rose of Sharon out of the Hibiscus database?

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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Feb 6, 2017 2:15 PM CST

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I'd like to get opinions on what people think about making the Roses of Sharon their own database? @zuzu
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis Irises
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zuzu
Feb 6, 2017 2:32 PM CST

Plants Admin

The Hibiscus Database was once split into H. rosa-sinensis and two or three others. It didn't work well because I was the mod of the H. rosa-sinensis database. SongofJoy was the mod of H. moscheutos and H. syriacus. I think I was the mod for all the other species. I wasn't an admin then, so I had to wait for SongofJoy to approve my proposals to move various entries into the sections she moderated. I forget the details, but I know it was difficult to coordinate proposals, so all of them ultimately were lumped together in one database. I have no objection to splitting them again, but there shouldn't be more than one mod in the future.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Region: Texas Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Permaculture Raises cows
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dave
Feb 6, 2017 2:37 PM CST

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That works for me. Since you're a plant admin you have free reign through the database, and we'll just be sure that we won't add mods for any hibiscus entries we make.

So we'll split once again Hibiscus into:

Hardy Hibiscus: Parent Plant Hardy Hibiscuses (Hibiscus moscheutos subsp. moscheutos)

Tropical Hibiscus: Parent Plant Tropical Hibiscuses (Hibiscus rosa-sinensis)

Rose of Sharon: Parent plant Roses of Sharon (Hibiscus sinosyriacus)

And then we will keep the main Hibiscus for all other hibiscus plants. That ends up with 4 parent plants under Hibiscus.

Sound good?
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis Irises
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Forum moderator Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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zuzu
Feb 6, 2017 2:44 PM CST

Plants Admin

Sounds good. Thumbs up
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Region: Texas Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Permaculture Raises cows
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dave
Feb 6, 2017 3:32 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

I tip my hat to you. Thank You!
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Region: Texas Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Permaculture Raises cows
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dave
Feb 6, 2017 4:02 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

These two are done:

The Hardy Hibiscuses Database

The Tropical Hibiscuses Database

I think in Roses of Sharon (Hibiscus sinosyriacus) we need to remove at least the height and width. Anything else?
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis Irises
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Forum moderator Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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zuzu
Feb 6, 2017 4:07 PM CST

Plants Admin

Yes, the present height and width ranges are too limited.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Region: Texas Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Permaculture Raises cows
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dave
Feb 6, 2017 4:12 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

Thanks, all the Hibiscus plants are now handled. Thumbs up

The Roses of Sharon Database
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis Irises
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Forum moderator Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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zuzu
Feb 6, 2017 4:23 PM CST

Plants Admin

H. moscheutos subsp. lasiocarpos and H. moscheutos subsp. moscheutos got left behind in the Hibiscus Database, but they should be included in the Hardy Hibiscus Database.

H. sinosyriacus should be included in the Rose of Sharon Database.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Region: Texas Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Permaculture Raises cows
Beekeeper Vermiculture Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages Plant Identifier Avid Green Pages Reviewer
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dave
Feb 6, 2017 4:43 PM CST

Garden.org Admin

All handled! Thank You!

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