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Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator Plant Identifier Region: Nebraska Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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KentPfeiffer
Feb 7, 2017 6:18 PM CST

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If you have any comments, questions, opinions about the formatting of Iris Database main page, please do it here, or in The thread "Incorporating Plant Care Guides into our database" in Plant Database forum .

For the moment I removed most of the plant care articles in order bring the Search and Browse, Recent threads, New Images, and New Comments sections back near the top of the page.
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
Region: United States of America Region: Arkansas Master Gardener: Arkansas Irises Plant and/or Seed Trader Moon Gardener
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grannysgarden
Feb 7, 2017 6:25 PM CST
It s a lot better than it was, Kent. I still think that we will read it once and then skip it ever after. New people may read it once and then skip it. I would like iris information as a permanent thread (sticky?) on the iris site where we can suggest people with a lot of questions can find answers. When I go to the database this seems like a speed bump. Just slows you down and makes you not want to take that route again. Just my thoughts.
Who plants a seed beneath the sod and waits for growth believes in God. ~~Unknown
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Feb 7, 2017 9:51 PM CST
I agree with Bonnie. The articles need to be separated from the database. I think the articles have lots of very useful information, but scrolling through all of that to get to the database, especially on a cell phone where it takes forever to get past the article, just kills people's desire to search.

At this time of year the iris database is in much demand because we want to compare pictures before we make our orders with vendors. Ease of use is crucial or people will go search elsewhere. Winter is also the iris forum's game time where we bond with stories tied to iris names, guessing games, even holiday games. These all need the database. It makes us all more familiar with the database photos, and inspires future purchases as well as creating a fun atmosphere. The endless scrolling to get to that magic search button has us all feeling weary by this point.

I feel any members looking for the information the articles provide would find them easily if they were contained in a growing iris information thread. Have it permanently at the top with the vendor list.
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Service dogs: Angels with paws.
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lovemyhouse
Feb 7, 2017 10:05 PM CST
Second what Bonnie and Leslie said in general, and (on a desktop, anyway) access to the search functions is much easier, now, thank you. Smiling
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator Plant Identifier Region: Nebraska Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Irises Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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KentPfeiffer
Feb 7, 2017 11:30 PM CST

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It's unlikely that the plant care articles will get moved to the forums for the simple reason that a lot of people use the database, but don't ever visit the forums. In other words, the people you see conversing on the forums represent just a fraction of database users. The question is really how to incorporate the plant care information on the main database page without reducing the usability of the other features.

*On one thread, Dave did discuss the possibility of being able to customize database pages, sort of like what was done with the home page. If so, it might then be possible for individual members to eliminate the plant care articles if they wish. That still doesn't get at the broader issue of how to make the plant care information workable in general, though.
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Feb 8, 2017 6:26 AM CST
Kent, can all the plant care articles be stored in their own space within the website with links to them at each plant database? That way every plant database would just have a link at the top (such as "Iris taxonomy and care - click here") that would take them straight to the articles.
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield
Name: Lilli
Copenhagen, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
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IrisLilli
Feb 8, 2017 7:14 AM CST
I agree !

You don't know if it will grow until you try!
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator Plant Identifier Region: Nebraska Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Irises Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
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KentPfeiffer
Feb 8, 2017 8:05 AM CST

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The issue regarding the sheer volume of information on the Iris page was brought up within minutes of the changes being made last week and Dave indicated he is working on a solution to it. I trust that he will, but don't know what it is at this point.
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Service dogs: Angels with paws.
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
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lovemyhouse
Feb 8, 2017 8:33 AM CST
...and we all know he will find that solution, and do it with style. Smiling I tip my hat to you.
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Feb 8, 2017 9:10 AM CST
Thanks for reading all our feedback Kent.
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield
Name: Lilli
Copenhagen, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
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IrisLilli
Feb 8, 2017 9:36 AM CST
Yes Thank You! Thumbs up
You don't know if it will grow until you try!
Name: Jan Wax
Mendocino County, N. CA (Zone 9a)
I'm a studio potter.
Hummingbirder Dog Lover Irises Region: California Organic Gardener Dahlias
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janwax
Feb 8, 2017 9:56 AM CST
Thank You! Kent!
VOTE!
Name: Dirt
(Zone 5b)
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Garden Photography Bee Lover Region: Utah Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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dirtdorphins
Feb 8, 2017 12:39 PM CST
KentPfeiffer said:It's unlikely that the plant care articles will get moved to the forums for the simple reason that a lot of people use the database, but don't ever visit the forums. In other words, the people you see conversing on the forums represent just a fraction of database users. The question is really how to incorporate the plant care information on the main database page without reducing the usability of the other features.

*On one thread, Dave did discuss the possibility of being able to customize database pages, sort of like what was done with the home page. If so, it might then be possible for individual members to eliminate the plant care articles if they wish. That still doesn't get at the broader issue of how to make the plant care information workable in general, though.


I can see the value of having plant info and care items within the DB mainpage for the plant --or 'parent plant', I guess.
And, I can also see it as huge 'speed bump' as it was ---unavoidable and so vast, obscuring all the other utility of the DB for both forum regulars and other users.

Why not put the growing bulk of it all at the bottom of the page with a short intro to irises at the top and hyperlinks to taxonomy, classifications, care and whatever, that would then take a person directly to that section of the page if that's where they wanna go?
It would also be really neat if within the class or care and info guides one could click on a photo or word that would provide easy access to search results of the DB--like if you wanted to browse arilbreds or JI or spurias or whatever.

Personally, I like the customize-able homepage Thumbs up but I'd prefer to see the DB mainpages showcasing everything there is to offer, concisely, at the top with an intuitive way to get wherever you want to go from there. Or, in otherwords, I don't want to have to customize DB pages to make them workable
Name: Nora
Castlegar, B. C. Canada (Zone 5b)
Region: Canadian Cat Lover Salvias Xeriscape Roses Organic Gardener
Garden Photography Echinacea Butterflies Birds Irises Daylilies
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HemNorth
Feb 8, 2017 2:28 PM CST
Maybe I could ask this question here.

How can I access an Iris hybridzer and a list of all the Irises that person or company has introduced?
Ten months ago or so, I read that this was possible, in one of the threads, and starred it. Now I can't seem to find it.

Yesterday in doing research for the National Periodic Table Day, (Iris of the Day Thread) I found, in searching for Iris names from the names of Elements, that in the 1940's, Robert Allen introduced many Irises with names of Elements. Sadly, I couldn't find any photos of those in the Database.
I tried to make a list of his Element introductions, but that's where I got stuck. Sad

Please help - - - Thank You!
Name: Lilli
Copenhagen, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
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IrisLilli
Feb 8, 2017 2:50 PM CST
1) You find the The Irises Database
2) Scroll down to the search box
3) Choose the "Search by characteristics (height, bloom color, etc)" link
4) Under 'Hybridizer' you type the name of the person you are looking for.

Good luck! Crossing Fingers!
You don't know if it will grow until you try!
Name: Nora
Castlegar, B. C. Canada (Zone 5b)
Region: Canadian Cat Lover Salvias Xeriscape Roses Organic Gardener
Garden Photography Echinacea Butterflies Birds Irises Daylilies
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HemNorth
Feb 8, 2017 5:10 PM CST
Thanks for your help, Lilli - I found the search box and found reference to 60 of Robert Allen's Irises listed, but of course not one with a photo.
What a useful tool! I'll be sure to make use of this. You deserve an Acorn for your help. Smiling
Name: Robin
Melbourne, Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia Irises Garden Photography Cat Lover Seed Starter
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Totally_Amazing
Feb 8, 2017 5:21 PM CST
I had a look at the AIS website and found a few of Robert Allen's introductions, but there are no periodic table elements.
http://wiki.irises.org/bin/vie...

Name: Lilli
Copenhagen, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
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IrisLilli
Feb 9, 2017 7:46 AM CST
@HemNorth Thank You!
You don't know if it will grow until you try!
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Feb 10, 2017 8:34 AM CST
I like the new set up much better than the long scroll. And what a joy to see your Serene Silence when I open the database! Hurray!
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Feb 10, 2017 8:39 AM CST
I do think it is interesting though that in the section of plant part pictures there is a picture of bulbs, and of roots, but none of a rhizome. Rhizomes are the heart of much iris discussion.
My road calls me, lures me west, east, south & north; most roads lead men homewards, my road leads me forth. - John Masefield

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