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Name: Robyn
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robynanne
Feb 8, 2017 8:12 PM CST
My tray of peppers has been growing. I learned early that I waited too long to take the plastic cover off, but they mostly survived. I had a plant light that was red and blue, but yesterday I replaced that with a high intensity light from gardener's supply store. I added the fertilizer that came with the kit last week, and I have some more ready to go. The problem is, some leaves are really light yellow. I tried giving those more fertilizer, but it didn't seem to help. I'm nervous about giving too much. I followed the instructions for seedlings. The new stuff I have is specially for starter trays, but it says to water the plants from the top, not put the water with the dissolved fertilizer in the tray to be sucked up to the plants. So two questions, how do I help my poor yellow leaf plants? (Not all in the tray did this. ) and what is the best way to feed a self watering seed tray?
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Name: Elaine
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dyzzypyxxy
Feb 8, 2017 8:40 PM CST
Hi Robyn, I think the issue with feeding in the self-watering trays is that if you have some seedlings that are bigger and stronger than others, they will also have a bigger, deeper root system. So, they will get more of the fertilizer/water when you feed. So they'll continue to get bigger and stronger, and the smaller plants will be robbed of nutrients and stay smaller.

If you water each pellet or plant from the top, you can give each one about the same amount.

Btw, with those little peat pellets, I always peel off that netting holding them together before I plant out the plants. I've had them restrict root formation to the extent that the plants get stunted, many times.
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Name: Robyn
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robynanne
Feb 8, 2017 10:33 PM CST
Oh, thank you. I was wondering if the roots could get out of the net.. it didn't seem like they really were. Sounds like cutting is a good idea.
Name: Sandy B.
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Weedwhacker
Feb 9, 2017 8:40 AM CST
Hi Robyn -- I always water my seedlings from the bottom, but I think Elaine has a good point about the fertilizer being taken up by the larger plants. (Maybe that hasn't been an issue for me because I use potting soil with fertilizer to start my seeds.

This is awfully early to have your pepper seeds started -- I think you're going to need to pot them up at some point so they can continue to grow, before you are able to plant them outside. I start my peppers around April 1st, for planting outside around June 1st, and even then I move them up to 3" pots around May 8th.
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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Feb 9, 2017 10:23 AM CST
Hi Robyn ๐Ÿ˜Ž
Im just a bigner to. I was having yellowing falling off leaves also.๐Ÿ˜ฌ
With the help of @green. And also @sooby. We figured out ๐Ÿ˜ฌ!!!
I was drounding the poor guys. ๐Ÿ˜ญ
Check out the thread. I think it is.
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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Feb 9, 2017 10:33 AM CST
Also, Robyn...NGA has a online class for beginner gardeners. One class is about starting seedlings. It a helpfull also.
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Name: Robyn
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robynanne
Feb 9, 2017 12:59 PM CST
Thanks!

Yeah, I know it is early. I have some bigger pots to move them to once they can. I've considered moving them now just to see if I can nurse those leaves back. I'll see how they do just waiting and seeing at this point. I'm not going to add any fertilized water from the top to see if letting them just use the regular self watering process lets them dry some.
Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Feb 9, 2017 1:46 PM CST
Robyn ! ## Thumbs up Thumbs up
Good job on starting so early. With you short growing season. Its the way to go !!! By the time comes to plant. Your plants will be mature, and probably blooming. Thumbs up
Your gonna have the earliest veges in the whole neighborhood ###
Probably before me ! Hear in Fresno Calif. We put our vege starts out, about mid-march. And dont start harvesting till around....Humm ???๐Ÿ˜•???.... June !

And ! Humm ???๐Ÿ˜•๐Ÿ˜•๐Ÿ˜•???.....
You got me thinking about changing my tactics, for next year.
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Name: Sandy B.
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Weedwhacker
Feb 9, 2017 4:48 PM CST
Philip -- the problem with starting so early is that you have to have a LOT of room for those plants quite some time before they can go outside. That would be okay for half a dozen plants or so, but since I usually put in at least 36 pepper plants there would be no way for me to start so early. Also, peppers start producing quite early in my experience -- I have loads of peppers long before my tomatoes start ripening. As it is, starting my seeds around April 1st, most of my plants are beginning to flower before they get planted out.
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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Feb 10, 2017 1:15 PM CST
You half to have the room. This is true Sandy. Im thinking just a few sneekers. Just to play with ! ๐Ÿ˜
Most of my garden i give to friends and family, since i only need to feed myself. I just like to grow stuff.

Did you say you grow 36 peppers???? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ WOW !!!!
I bet you know every way in the book. To cook peppers ###
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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Weedwhacker
Feb 10, 2017 7:20 PM CST
Mostly I use the peppers to make salsa... and jalapeno poppers... and stuffed green peppers. Oh, and of course I freeze a bunch of them, especially the hot peppers, and add some to things like sweet corn, and taco meat and chili... and then, too, I dry some of the hot ones and make my own "cayenne pepper" and "crushed red peppers." Yep -- I love peppers! Big Grin
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Name: Robyn
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robynanne
Feb 19, 2017 10:50 AM CST
I'm thinking it was either just water or normal young leaves. They darkened up and the plants are doing well.

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Here is one of my nursery shelves. We'll see add the days go on how full they get!
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woofie
Feb 19, 2017 11:14 AM CST
Looking good! Thumbs up
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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Feb 19, 2017 4:56 PM CST
Roybn: looking good ๐Ÿ˜
When did you start them ?
Also , are you using 6500 k bulds ?
6500 k , 2 foot , 4 buld is what i have. My plants after 2 months , are shrimpy. I started a thread in Q&As, titled "bugs in seedlings" You can see picture of my poor little plants there. I started on Dec 18th.
Plants have fungus gnats. Prior to posting question, i didnt know that fungus gnat maggots would feed on the roots ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ
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Name: Robyn
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robynanne
Feb 19, 2017 6:41 PM CST
There are 3 55 watt t5 bulbs, not exactly sure how that compares. This is what I have: http://www.gardeners.com/buy/h...

Oh no on the bugs! So frustrating!

Edited because I forgot part. I started the peppers in late Jan. The tomatoes I just started last weekend. I'm still experimenting with what time works best for me. We'll see how this works. If spring comes super early this year, I'll have really lucked out.

Good luck with your plants! Kick those bug's butts.
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Name: Sandy B.
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Weedwhacker
Feb 19, 2017 6:46 PM CST
Philip, I don't think fungus gnats feed on the roots (or otherwise really bother the plants) -- although they are annoying!
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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Feb 19, 2017 7:50 PM CST
@weedwhacker. Sandy ! ๐Ÿ˜Hi ๐Ÿ˜
Google fungus gnats. They do chow on roots. Others hear on NGA. have told me so also. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
I didnt think they did, also. ๐Ÿ˜ญ!!!
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Weedwhacker
Feb 19, 2017 7:59 PM CST
Interesting! I guess I've just never had them to the extent where they have caused any harm. Shrug!
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