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Name: Agavegirl1
South Sonoran Desert (Zone 9b)
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AgaveGirl1
Feb 11, 2017 12:12 PM CST
I am having great difficulty using your set up for adding a plant to the data base. I do not have serial numbers and letters and tm, etc. and the majority of the time I am clueless on species, genus, family, etc.I would like to contribute but am having profound difficulty doing so because I lack the required/requested above information.

99% of the time this is all the information I can provide as the plants are ones I have seen in the wild, public parks, common areas or in business parking lots. Many are found in front of government buildings and in road medians and subdivision landscaping. Often many of the plants I photograph belong to neighbors who have no clue what the plant is other then 'pretty'. This being so I have no access to other detailed information.

In regards to the plant file, I get bounced back to step one that ask for the details I mentioned above. All I can provide is a common name, the geographical location of where the plant resides, physical traits and some pictures.

Am I not utilizing the data base entry correctly? If so can you please tell me the step by step procedure? Is there an easier way for people, such as myself, with the limited knowledge on a plant able to contribute?

Thank you so much for helping me. It is greatly appreciated.
AG

For what it's worth here is a plant that was discussed on our "ID for agave and cactus." This is the one I was trying to enter. It is a Mescalito Agave felgeri and belongs to the group of Parviflorae. If this plant is useful information for the data base and benefits others, would you be so kind as to add it?

Mescalito Agave filifera / A. filfera (group Parviflorae)

---Plant is approximately 12 years old. Height 8-12 inches. Reaches a maximum height of 16-18 inches. Flowers approximately at age 15.
---Dry grsss/straw like texture to leaves. Fibrous white curling filaments growing from leaves.
---Xeric and extremely drought tolerant.
--Enjoys full sun even at the hottest desert temperatures. Also works in partial shade.
--Stays green. Turns very brown when in need of water and then reverts back to green when given a heavy watering.
--Seems to be impervious to type of soil in which it is planted as long as it drains well.
---Rosette form that produces pups and can grow to clumps of 3-4 feet wide.
---No marginal spines.
--- CAUTION !!! Very tiny but profoundly sharp lateral spines that draw blood and can penetrate leather gloves.

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Family photo, so to speak, of a mature plant, umbilical cord and pup.

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Have a great day.


Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Feb 11, 2017 12:24 PM CST
In my mind, one of the problems with your plant is that we don't have a positive ID. You have taken a giant leap into guess-work. Unless you get corroboration from an expert or do a DNA test, wait until it blooms.

Sorry but I don't think this plant should be added to the Data Base at this point.
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Feb 11, 2017 12:24 PM CST
So, is this the same plant you've posted photos of here?
Thread Leaf Agave (Agave filifera)
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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Feb 11, 2017 12:31 PM CST
Here is the thread its from"

The thread "I.D. for new agave and a cactus." in Plant ID forum
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Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
Charter ATP Member Garden Procrastinator Greenhouse Dragonflies Plays in the sandbox I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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woofie
Feb 11, 2017 1:28 PM CST
Thanks, Daisy. Didn't realize there was a whole other thread on this.
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Name: Agavegirl1
South Sonoran Desert (Zone 9b)
"Give me a museum and I'll fill it"
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AgaveGirl1
Feb 11, 2017 2:41 PM CST
Oops. My bad. On the Plant I.D. forum I listed it correctly as Agave felgeri. In this post I listed it incorrectly as A. filifera. D'Oh! Too many things that start with 'F" and sound alike.

It is indeed in Agavacea family and is an A. felgeri.

My research on the ID. came from several sites and their photos provided. www. desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Agavacea.
There was also Dave's Garden.com/guides/pf/go/60599.

I wanted a second opinion so I double checked my information and photos with Thijs. He lives an hour from me and also has the same plant. He agreed that this plant was an A. felgeri.

If this plant and information provided makes a worthwhile contribution to the files that would be wonderful. If it is redundant in its information I apologize for the inconvenience.

Thanks,
AG
Name: Baja
Baja California (Zone 11b)
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Baja_Costero
Feb 11, 2017 3:18 PM CST
So then this is the place to leave your pictures.... don't think you need to add a plant, just post a picture. Scroll down on the page and you'll see a link saying "upload a photo".

Mescalito (Agave felgeri)

Right?

I would lend my non-expert opinion in support of the ID.
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