Lilies forum: Martagon seed giveaway 2017

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Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Feb 12, 2017 9:09 PM CST
I am far behind, but I would still like to offer excess martagon section seeds from my lilies. (For you that are in the southern hemisphere, the timing is just about right.) Seeds were all open pollenated, and the probable crosses aren't anything to write home about. Still, you never know what you might get. Big Grin I candled them, and have over 400 seeds from Lilium ‘Mrs. R.O. Backhouse’ and a few others, and this would be a good opportunity to just experiment with germinating delayed hypogeal martagon section seed. Even if you don’t want to grow them on, that’s just fine with me! This is a good opportunity gain martagon seed knowledge, without jeopardizing your very special seeds.

Many of you have seen how I often germinate seeds in little 2x3 inch baggies of fine vermiculite. As Lorn has mentioned, too, vermiculite can be difficult to work with because it is hard to gauge and regulate the moisture level. It might be easier to use a light soil mix instead. On the other hand, this would also be a good time to try the vermiculite since this seed is not so precious. I just find it is “prettier” and more amenable to good photographing with the vermiculite. I can certainly give you plenty of seed to try multiple methods and compare, and that’s what I recommend.

To be able to watch the seeds grow, when I use the little baggies, I first fill the bag loosely with vermiculite, and then put the seeds on top of the mix as the baggy lays flat on the table. A drop of water on the end of a toothpick will grab a dry seed for easy placement. Seal the bag and turn it upside down and proceed. This way, when the seeds germinate you will be able to see everything that is happening. If you leave the seeds on top, roots and bulbs will disappear into the medium when they germinate. You won’t get to see anything.

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But of course, you can treat the seeds however you desire.

The 400 Backhouse seeds were most likely fertilized with pollen from Super Tsing or Terrace City. And the 50 seeds I have of open pollinated Terrace City were likely pollenated by Backhouse or Super Tsing. These three cultivars were within 10ft of each other. My other hybrids with L. tsingtauense in their background (about 20 kinds) are all 80-100ft away. they are improbable, but possible suitors.

Mrs. R.O. Backhouse & Terrace City
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I also have about 50 seeds of an open pollenated light pink martagon, lightly spotted on both the face and reverse. This one, especially, would be a great throw-away experiment. Though the flowers are quite nice, the pedicels are limp and overall inflorescence structure not that desirable.

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So if you would like to try any, send me a t-mail with your address and what seed you would like. Lily seeds don’t need bubble wrap, but if you want that, then I’ll need $$ reimbursement. After a week, I will divvy them up and send them off.

Name: della
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dellac
Feb 13, 2017 4:10 PM CST
Planting martagon seeds is on today's to-do list for me, to let nature's cycle do the 'hard' work. As much as I love seeing those shiny little bulbs emerge I finally settled on late summer outdoor planting as preferred method for my hypogeals. Only because I ran out of time and energy for all the handling involved with bagging and incubating. If I were growing fewer seeds I'd still bag them.

What fun though, for anyone wanting to try out hypogeal seed. I hope you get lots of takers, Rick. Thumbs up
Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Feb 13, 2017 5:52 PM CST
See martagon seed growing instructions here:
https://garden.org/thread/view...

Anyone who had previously saved or copied the post, please replace it with this edited version that contains new information.
Name: Jeanne
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gardenglassgems
Feb 24, 2017 8:19 AM CST
Hi Rick,
I would love to try some of your lily seeds if you still have some. I will t-mail you as soon as I know if you still have some available. A few of all the different ones you have would be great. Thanks, Jeanne
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Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Feb 24, 2017 2:36 PM CST
As "luck" would have it, the lily seeds have been completely out of my mind, and I have not sent any yet. So Jeanne, you will be part of the distribution. On Monday, they took my brother to the emergency room at United Hospital. He is okay now, just that since he is a quadriplegic, things can be more complicated.
Name: Deborah
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Deebie
Feb 24, 2017 2:54 PM CST
I sent you a t-mail and hope that things continue to go OK with your brother. Group hug
Name: della
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dellac
Feb 24, 2017 8:01 PM CST
Oh, sorry to hear you've had a scare with your brother! Hope the complications smooth out and he goes well. Crossing Fingers!
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Feb 24, 2017 8:24 PM CST

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Sorry to hear about your brother's medical issues, Rick. Hope everything is okay. Please take your time - family is more important.
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Name: Jeanne
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gardenglassgems
Feb 24, 2017 8:25 PM CST
Thanks Rick. I got your t-mail. I hope your brother gets well soon without complications. I will let you know when I receive my seeds from you.
Thanks.
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Name: ursula
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Mutisia
Feb 24, 2017 8:38 PM CST
I sincerely hope your brother will have a full recovery, Rick.

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Name: kathy
Michigan
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katesflowers
Feb 26, 2017 5:09 PM CST
Thank you Leftwood for the lily seed offer. I have sent you a tree mail request.
Meeting you is special, a way to expand my knowledge and share results. Looking forward to the adventure
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jessicajohannesen
Mar 3, 2017 7:48 PM CST
I will be sending you a tree mail. I am very interested in lily seeds.
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tx_flower_child
Mar 4, 2017 10:23 PM CST
I think I'm late to the party. Do you still have any seeds? Guess I should send you a tree mail.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN, USA zon
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Leftwood
Mar 5, 2017 8:20 PM CST
Seeds all sent out.
Sorry, Jessica and texas_flower_child, you were just a bit too late. Darn it!

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tx_flower_child
Mar 5, 2017 8:58 PM CST
@Leftwood - No worries! Regardless, it was a most generous offer. (I do plan to save a copy of your martagon seed growing instructions tho.)
Name: kathy
Michigan
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katesflowers
Mar 10, 2017 6:46 PM CST
Rick
I got a lovely Christmas card today. You are so generous. I will get to work [pleasant work] tomorrow morning.
Thank you.
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Name: Jeanne
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gardenglassgems
Mar 11, 2017 7:55 AM CST
Thank you too Rick for the generous seeds. I got my a few days ago. Nice card!! I hope to get busy with my soon too. Do they need to be cold stratified or can I put them directly into seed starter?
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Name: Joe
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Joebass
Mar 11, 2017 8:36 AM CST
You're gonna want 3 months warm, 3 months cold and then plant in a bigger pot. True leaves to follow.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN, USA zon
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Leftwood
Mar 11, 2017 3:03 PM CST
Joe is right. Look at my "See martagon seed growing instructions here:" post, earlier in this thread.
Name: kathy
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katesflowers
Mar 31, 2017 1:26 PM CST
@leftwood Hooray ! Thank you for the generous gift of seeds !
My Martagon seeds were planted in peat based organic seed starting mix on March 12th lightly moistened, in sealed baggies zipped closed, lower two corners clipped, weighted down with a brick, inside a clear plastic shoebox with a snap-on lid, sitting on my kitchen counter.
On March 29th I noticed they have begun germinating ! 25% of the seeds planted are in the hypocotyl stage. I confess, I check daily (what's a mother to do?), it looks like the other seeds are swollen and may be progressing slower. No seeds are molding.
Seeds were placed on bottom of baggie to view progress, three baggies total, marked with plant name and date of planting. Hypocotyl is 1/4", no bulb.
With your advice leftwood, I was thinking of leaving those bulbs to develop, as is, for the next 4 months (until August 1st). Then start the cold treatment in the refrigerator (with the beer bottles) for 3 months (ending November 1st). Then remove from refrigerator, pot them up and baby them indoors during the winter of 2017/2018.
My question(FYI I am Zone 4b) - Can I transplant them to the perennial beds in late Spring 2018, to an intensive care area where everyone gets a gentle spray, fertilizer, special attention regularly?
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