Plant ID forum: Brazilian Atlantic rainforest plant..

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Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Feb 18, 2017 9:17 AM CST
I found them in a small group growing in the shade of a rock close by the river. They seemed to be in the early stage of blooming with yellowish flower buds emerging. Unfortunately I didn't get the opportunity to go back later to see them in full bloom.
Anyone has an idea? Smiling
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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Feb 18, 2017 11:33 AM CST
Makes me think Iris
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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Feb 18, 2017 12:29 PM CST
Thanks Daisy, but there are no Iris species native in Brasil.
Name: Carol
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ctcarol
Feb 18, 2017 1:19 PM CST
My first thought was ginger of some kind.
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Feb 18, 2017 2:38 PM CST
According to several studies, there are 160 Iridaceae species in Brazil.

Maybe a Neomarica.

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Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Feb 18, 2017 7:13 PM CST
Oh yes Daisy, you're right, i didn't think of family members of the Iris.
The Rio de Janeiro state, where I found the plants, has 8 genera and 25 species.
Neomarica is amongst them.
http://floradobrasil.jbrj.gov....
I'll have a look at it tomorrow with a fresh mind..need some sleep now..
Thanks! Thumbs up
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Feb 19, 2017 4:43 AM CST
It definitely looks like being in the Iris family..

Sisyrinchium vaginatum is a possible candidate..
https://sites.google.com/site/...
http://www.brazilplants.com/ir...

My plants were not taller than about 20-25 cm..
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Feb 19, 2017 4:54 AM CST
The leaf fan shape and the flower hardly having a visible stem looks very much like Neomarica altivallis like in this photo:
http://www.brazilplants.com/ir...
Problem is it states a height of 70cm and isn't supposed to occur in the Rio state.
Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Feb 19, 2017 5:08 AM CST
Neomarica longifolia might be a better candidate..
http://www.brazilplants.com/ir...

But as we have no open flowers it might be impossible to find a definite identity..so better leave it at that.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Feb 19, 2017 7:34 AM CST
Hi Myriam Smiling

The form does look like Neomarica, except I'm not sure if the plant leaves arise from a stem like yours does. I had a couple of Neomarica I grew from seed, they grew quite well in a greenhouse until a cold winter killed them off, from what I recall the leaves fanned out from ground level. Does anyone know of a Neomarica which has such a stem?

https://www.google.co.uk/searc...:

That might leave us looking in a different family. The only other family I could think it would fit in is Orchidaceae.

Name: Myriam
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bonitin
Feb 19, 2017 8:25 AM CST
Thanks Janet for popping in! Smiling
JRsbugs said:
The form does look like Neomarica, except I'm not sure if the plant leaves arise from a stem like yours does.

yes, that is also a question I had!
Also the fans of mine are very flat as if having been pressed and we have the problem of the size that doesn't seem to fit Neomarica sps as far as I found out. The plants were also growing in deep shade..
Good you're suggesting to look into another family; the Orchidaceae..

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JRsbugs
Feb 19, 2017 8:40 AM CST
There's 140 Orchidaceae generea with 831 species in Rio de Janeiro!

http://floradobrasil.jbrj.gov....
Name: Myriam
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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bonitin
Feb 19, 2017 8:52 AM CST
I'm now realizing this..deep sigh.. Hilarious!

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