Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Heuffelii 'Iole' ... or not.

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Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Feb 23, 2017 3:26 PM CST
I got this guy from SMG last Fall. I potted him up and left him in my coldframe to be planted come Spring. SMG describes it as "bright green rosettes with dark purple tips" which seems pretty consistent with our two DB pictures.


But sempervivum-liste.de shows it and describes it as something completely different.
http://sempervivum-liste.de/Jo...

SMG's listing for 'Iole'.
http://www.smgsucculents.com/j...

Before I contact SMG, is there any way I can verify this by myself... I can't seem to find anything at all definitive.
Maybe someone has the grande DVD and can look it up?
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Feb 23, 2017 6:03 PM CST

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Tim, I looked on the Fernwood DVD, no 'Iole'.
Keep in mind that none of the photos shown on sempervivum-liste.de are taken in the winter/early spring. They are from summer.
I have some of my heuffelii that go through huge changes of color through the different seasons. So lets see what you 'Iole' looks like this summer. Thumbs up
It sure looks nice and healthy.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Feb 23, 2017 6:30 PM CST
We can ask @jkbingh what his heuffelii 'Iole" looks like...
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Feb 23, 2017 6:34 PM CST

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Hmmm, wonder if he has any summer photos of his, and what it looks like now?
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Feb 23, 2017 6:42 PM CST
webesemps said:We can ask @jkbingh what his heuffelii 'Iole" looks like...


Good idea. Would a tree-mail be reasonable? I will do that.

I would be totally amazed if a green-leafed, purple-tipped Heuf with no leaf outlines in Winter were to morph into a red-leafed, no-tipped Heuf with green leaf outlines in Spring and Summer. I suppose stranger things have happened. Also, jkbingh's photo was taken in April and is still green with dark tips.

Update: tree-mail sent to jkbingh.
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Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Feb 23, 2017 7:43 PM CST
More fuel for the fire. This looks just like semp-list's 'Iole' but is 'Ioze' with a 'z'. D'Oh!
Of course semp-list has an 'Ioze' which looks like a whole different thing. Grumbling

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Name: James
Kingsport, TN
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jkbingh
Feb 24, 2017 12:19 AM CST
Hello everybody. I just got the email Tim sent me. I'm at work now but will look through my records tomorrow and see but I believe I got mine from SMG as well. I will look also for some more pictures. I just got it last year so it will look different this spring as it has acclimated to our weather here. I hope everyone is getting geared for spring. I'm excited Hurray!
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dirtdorphins
Feb 24, 2017 12:30 AM CST
and here I thought 'lole' was just an abbreviation for love 'em or leave 'em continuation thread Hilarious!
--sorry, nothing of value to add here *Blush*
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Feb 24, 2017 12:41 PM CST

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'Ioze' is an introduction by SMG. It is one of Don's introductions. I see we only have one photo entered for it in our database.
Job's Beard (Sempervivum heuffelii 'Ioze')
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Feb 24, 2017 9:30 PM CST
Tim,

The only information I have on 'Iole' is that it's a seedling from S. heuffelii from Jacupica and is a sibling to 'Ithaca' and a bunch of others that start with the letter "I". 'Ithaca' I do grow and it's rather nice and has given some decent seedlings too. Ben Zonneveld introduced a bunch of nice heuffs. My favorite of his is 'Vesta'.

Kevin

Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Feb 24, 2017 11:00 PM CST
I think 'Iole' and 'Ioze' and maybe others are all SNAFU'ed in a tangled web that will never be straightened out. But that's just one man's opinion. Glare

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