Plant ID forum: Type of Aloe?

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r4mbo
Mar 7, 2017 10:43 AM CST
Hello!
Does anyone know what this is? Seems a type of Aloe to me, or Kalanchoe, or some other succulent? The plants are not eight inches tall, the flower cluster grows on a long stalk almost two feet up.
Thank you in advance!
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mcvansoest
Mar 7, 2017 11:25 AM CST
It is a Kalanchoe, not an Aloe. Plenty of people who visit this forum grow them and can probably point you to the specific ID of this Kalanchoe.

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DaisyI
Mar 7, 2017 11:26 AM CST
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Kalanchoe Daigremontiana
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longk
Mar 7, 2017 12:29 PM CST
DaisyI said: Welcome!

Kalanchoe Daigremontiana
The taxonomists have been at this one and it is now Bryophyllum daigremontianum.

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plantladylin
Mar 7, 2017 12:48 PM CST
Mother of Thousands (Kalanchoe daigremontiana)

According to the Catalogue of Life, Kalanchoe daigremontiana is the accepted Genus and species.
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longk
Mar 7, 2017 1:33 PM CST
plantladylin said:https://garden.org/plants/view/86925/Mother-of-Thousands-Kalanchoe-daigremontiana/

According to the Catalogue of Life, Kalanchoe daigremontiana is the accepted Genus and species.

That's what I like about forums. I was pointed to GBIF on another forum and accepted that. Now I've learnt another view. Thumbs up
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purpleinopp
Mar 7, 2017 4:44 PM CST
K./B. daigremontiana has much wider leaves. It's:
Mother of Thousands (Kalanchoe 'Houghtonii')
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mcvansoest
Mar 7, 2017 6:18 PM CST
longk said:
That's what I like about forums. I was pointed to GBIF on another forum and accepted that. Now I've learnt another view. Thumbs up


That is correct insofar that you accept Catalog of Life being the gospel when it comes to correct plant taxonomy. NGA chooses to do that, and that is completely fine. However given that the world of plant taxonomy is in constant motion (for some plants more than others), it is by far not a given that COL is going to absolutely correct or up to date for all plants in question.

I do not know so for this particular plant, but there are several instances with other plants where catalog of life is currently not fully up to date with the most recent taxonomy or it has chosen to ignore developments in taxonomy it considers controversial that are accepted by other plant list organizations.

So on this website the Kalanchoe name would be correct, on another website it might be the name you originally came up with is the preferred name (though as said for this particular plant name I do not know any details).
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Calif_Sue
Mar 8, 2017 11:16 AM CST

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Latest taxonomic scrutiny: Hassler M., Jan-2017
Source database: World Plants, Jan 2017

Bibliographic citation: Hassler M. (2017). World Plants: Synonymic Checklists of the Vascular Plants of the World (version Jan 2017). In: Roskov Y., Abucay L., Orrell T., Nicolson D., Bailly N., Kirk P., Bourgoin T., DeWalt R.E., Decock W., De Wever A., Nieukerken E. van, Zarucchi J., Penev L., eds. (2017). Species 2000 & ITIS Catalogue of Life, 27th February 2017.

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plantladylin
Mar 8, 2017 11:28 AM CST
Calif_Sue said:Latest taxonomic scrutiny: Hassler M., Jan-2017
Source database: World Plants, Jan 2017

Bibliographic citation: Hassler M. (2017). World Plants: Synonymic Checklists of the Vascular Plants of the World (version Jan 2017). In: Roskov Y., Abucay L., Orrell T., Nicolson D., Bailly N., Kirk P., Bourgoin T., DeWalt R.E., Decock W., De Wever A., Nieukerken E. van, Zarucchi J., Penev L., eds. (2017). Species 2000 & ITIS Catalogue of Life, 27th February 2017.

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longk
Mar 8, 2017 11:44 AM CST
I'd like to say thanks for your patience with me on this one - plenty to take in! Now I just need to remember which one to use where Hilarious!
I must admit that I don't get my knickers in a twist overly on the Latin names, it's the use of common names that gets me.
I grow a few Albuca and Ornithogalum and trying to keep up with which genus they're in this week can be hard work!
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plantladylin
Mar 8, 2017 12:01 PM CST
longk said: It's the use of common names that gets me.

I'm right there with you on that! There are too many entirely different types of plants with the same exact common name! Grumbling It's no wonder people get so confused. Blinking

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DaisyI
Mar 8, 2017 12:01 PM CST
I stick with whatever name was appropriate when I got the plant. I don't want any of my plants to suffer an identity crisis because their name keeps changing. Its too confusing for them. Smiling
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Mar 8, 2017 12:02 PM CST
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purpleinopp
Mar 8, 2017 2:41 PM CST
I've learned to check for synonymy before trying to discern the minute details between species. That's become a reflexive first step because trying to spot the differences in 2 same plants can really eat up an afternoon, not to mention make you lose your mind and possibly become overwhelmed with feelings of inadequacy from being unable to see anything different about what must be 2 diff plants because of the diff names.
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Mar 8, 2017 4:51 PM CST

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