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Holly ridge nc (Zone 8a)
Gardeningnewb
Mar 10, 2017 12:55 PM CST
This is my first year doing a raised bed garden. Im going to have either a 12x4 or an 8x4 and a 4x4. I want to plant 4 tomato plants ( 2 large fruiting cherries and 2 beefsteak), 1 or 2 zucchini, 2 cucumber plants (they are called bush champion and burpless beauty) and 2 bell pepper plants.
Any suggestions on how to arrange the bed(s)? I'd also take suggestions on other veggies that I can include in my space allows.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Mar 10, 2017 1:23 PM CST
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Holly ridge nc (Zone 8a)
Gardeningnewb
Mar 10, 2017 2:06 PM CST
I life in eastern North Carolina near Wilmington. Zone 8a I started my tomatoes and peppers about 2 weeks ago and they're doing good so far. I would do another bed but we have a lot of trees so finding another sunny location more might be an issue. A small bed of veggies that grow in mostly shade would work.
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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Weedwhacker
Mar 10, 2017 3:29 PM CST
Welcome to NGA, @Gardeningnewb .

You could grow your zucchini in a 4x4 bed (although the leaves might lap over the sides a bit.

I'd suggest using a trellis to grow your cukes vertically, rather than growing a bush type. Saves LOTS of space, and the cucumbers grow nicer when they aren't sitting on the ground.

Whether you do the 12x4 or 8x4 bed, I'd be inclined to plant 2 tomatoes on each end and then fill in the rest of the space with your other plants. (A trellis for the cucumbers could go the long way in the center of the bed.) As far as what other plants to grow, that depends entirely on what you enjoy eating - leaf lettuce, onions, radishes, herbs such as basil, and maybe a few marigolds which help repel some garden pests. Happy gardening! Smiling
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Holly ridge nc (Zone 8a)
Gardeningnewb
Mar 10, 2017 3:43 PM CST
So zucchini separately? I was considering tomatoes and zucchini in the 8x4 all in one row, and cucumbers and peppers in the 4x4 with the cucumbers behind the peppers. Is this a good arrangement? Any ideas about where I can fit more? Herbs along the edge of the tomato/zucchini bed maybe? I would enjoy having onions if i can fit them in and theyre compatible. I also have 4 large containers ceramic or concrete I think. I was thinking maybe some beans in there but will take any suggestions for those too.
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Weedwhacker
Mar 10, 2017 8:05 PM CST
There's no reason that the zucchini need to be separate... but the plants do get pretty big (I usually grow a couple of plants together and allow at least a 6-foot-diameter, more or less circular area for them. If you put those and the tomatoes in a 4x8 bed, I don't think you'll have room in that bed for anything else, but you probably would have some extra room in the 4x4 bed if you grow the cukes on a trellis and only grow a couple of pepper plants.
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Name: Meri Taylor
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mnmat
Mar 10, 2017 11:34 PM CST
Hey gardening newbie.

I grew a 4x4' bed with 1 zucchini in 4 sq ft, 2 tomatoes in 1sq ft each and beets in the rest. The tomatoes were ok because they were growing up but the zucchini sprawled all over the beets! Completely covering them. And they were in half the bed. So the zucchini took up 14 sq ft out of 16! My suggestion is not to put anything short anywhere near the zucchini.

How big are your containers? I have a bunch of 14" that I've grown tomatoes, peppers, eggplant and even corn in. If the containers are as large or larger then mine you could even do your zucchini in it. Free up a lot of space in the beds.

Draw out the bed on paper and separate into squares. I think you could do a couple peppers in with the tomatoes and zucchini. Use tomato cages for the peppers too. Beans would be ok if they are pole and you have a trellis for them. Anything short will be covered by large zucchini leaves and squashed by the fruit.

Here's a link to a chart of companion plants and their enemies. The only one I noticed might be relevant to you are the onions. There's quite a few plants that don't like onions.

http://www.unclelukes.com/comp...

I love square foot gardening! I have a new 4' square bed and a new 5x something foot bed. Its an old waterbed frame so I'm not sure the measurements. You've got a good head start with your beds. I haven't even thought about what all is going in mine. The big one still needs more dirt.

Have fun digging in the dirt!
Meri
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Weedwhacker
Mar 11, 2017 8:57 AM CST
mnmat said:
How big are your containers? I have a bunch of 14" that I've grown tomatoes, peppers, eggplant and even corn in. If the containers are as large or larger then mine you could even do your zucchini in it. Free up a lot of space in the beds.



I agree Most of the room is taken up by the big leaves, I see no reason why zucchini couldn't be grown in a container that size (although I've never tried it).

The chart only lists beans, peas and sage as "enemies" of onions. Smiling

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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Mar 12, 2017 10:38 AM CST
I was going to say plant squash in corner of bed and train it over side of bed. But, separate pots sounds better. Plastic storage container or barrels are cheep. If you got an old garbage can. You have an instant raised bed. Put a 5 gallon bucket inside. Cut a board to fit inside diameter. Fill with soil. PLANT ! Hurray! .
Paint, garbage can. ( optional )

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