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ChrisVR
Mar 13, 2017 3:52 PM CST
I am getting ready to landscape an entry way about 10 feet long and 4 feet wide beds on both sides) It gets morning shade and hot afternoon sun. Sacramento Ca area.
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Mar 13, 2017 5:28 PM CST
Welcome!

Two strips each 4 ft x 10 ft. In Sacramento (I was born there). Are you going for a formal look? Or a more casual look? Evergreens? Or can some be deciduous? How much maintenance are you willing to do?

Can you post a photo or two?

You are probably in Zone 9.
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Name: Lee-Roy
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Arico
Mar 13, 2017 5:55 PM CST
So what is it that you're asking exactly? Planting? Smiling
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purpleinopp
Mar 14, 2017 8:43 AM CST
That would be considered full sun, if that's what you are asking.
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Name: stone
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stone
Mar 14, 2017 3:47 PM CST
Actually.... It isn't full sun, it's afternoon sun....
About the worst conditions for planting.

Is Chris looking for plants that will survive there?
Or trying to grow some kind of shade?
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dyzzypyxxy
Mar 14, 2017 4:20 PM CST
My thought too, stone. I think I'd be going for a couple of small trees to the west of that entryway, not only to shade the walkway itself, but to make it more amenable to plants. The sudden onslaught of afternoon sun for the hottest time of day is really tough on most plants.

Any possibility of building a small pergola or something you could grow a vine over? Then you'd have a much wider choice of plants that would grow in the beds there.
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purpleinopp
Mar 15, 2017 7:54 AM CST
6+ hours of direct sun = full sun, especially if it's during the hot part of the day. That's the definition of the term, established & ubiquitously published long before I started gardening.

Store arrange plants by shade or sun, as a general practice, everywhere I've ever shopped, BBS's notwithstanding. Shade plants aren't going to make it in a spot in the sun all afternoon. My comment was in regard to not even bothering to look at the shade plants when shopping, not to say that it's not possible to have a spot with more sun. I'm sure there are plenty of plants that would love it, and sticking to those will be the most rewarding, vs. trying to alter the condition to suit plants that don't naturally love those conditions, or pretending the conditions are other than they really are.

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ChrisVR
Mar 15, 2017 9:39 AM CST
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Thank you everybody for your help! Here are two morning pictures of entry- gets sun by two o'clock and is very hot in spring and summer.
We want to take out existing privets and plant deer proof drought resistant plants. We have mature oaks in the area, lavender, rosemary and want the entry to be interesting with maybe theee types of plants? Grasses? Abelia?
A large rock rose exists in front of large window in pic. Ideas? :thankyou!
Name: stone
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stone
Mar 15, 2017 10:31 AM CST
You have cistus?
I want those... And can't have them... Too humid here, apparently.

I think I'd showcase them.

Yay on getting rid of the privet.

I'd think about cactus and Succulents.

I don't know how they would do at your house, but I find that salvia guaranitica and salvia microphylla are generally ideal for those difficult hot spots... Also... Some of the tall lantannas attract butterflies non-stop while requiring zero effort from me.

Personally, I want colour and butterflies, so... Your ideas about grasses leave me wanting something else.
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Mar 15, 2017 2:10 PM CST
I think it could be really attractive with a couple big rocks and some decorative grasses. Maybe a carpet rose or two. And a couple small growing confers for texture and winter time interest.
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