Ask a Question forum: Old time, home remedy for squash bugs and cucumber beetles.

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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Mar 15, 2017 2:36 PM CST
Theres bound to be one.
That i bet works !
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Mar 15, 2017 2:49 PM CST
Cucumber bugs are easy... just stop pulling out all the amaranth...
cucumber bugs would rather eat pigweed than whatever I'm growing for me.

squash bugs, you say?
are you concerned about the vine borer? or the leaf bugs?
I've read that the solution to the borers is to stop growing hollow stem squash.
Grow Cucurbita moschata instead.

Cant help you on the leaf bugs.
Maybe check the farmers almanac:
http://www.almanac.com/pest/sq...
Name: greene
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greene
Mar 15, 2017 3:11 PM CST
Don't know about "old timey" but if you cover your plants with a Reemay cover the bugs won't be able to get near your plants in the first place. It is well worth the investment. Thumbs up
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Mar 15, 2017 3:24 PM CST
@stone. Hi buddy 😁😁😁
?πŸ˜•? Squash vine borers...squash leaf bugs ??? Beats me Shrug! !!!
Can you tell me ?
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Mar 15, 2017 3:30 PM CST
Click the farmers almanac link...
Those are the regular leaf bugs (Anasa tristis).
Here's an article that shows the 2 different types.
https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/...
Name: Sue
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sooby
Mar 15, 2017 4:19 PM CST
They look like leaf-footed bugs, note the enlarged segment on the hind legs:

https://entomology.uark.edu/Ar...
Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Mar 16, 2017 9:27 AM CST
The squash bug and leaf footed bug look so simmarler. Mine have the leaf looking foot, but they have a light colored line, across there πŸ˜• waist line, for lack of better terms ?
My pole beans. Last year. Turned yellow one by one, tell they all died. Not even half way through season.
Never found any nymphs. Just the flying adults. I figure. Bugs must of gave plants, so kind of bacterial wilt ?
Im thinking a neem oil drench ? But ! How often do i drench, and at what strenght???
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Mar 16, 2017 9:35 AM CST
There are different species of leaf-footed bug, so that one is just an example I thought was good because it clearly shows the "leaf" on the leg. I don't know what species yours is. Do you have any pictures of ones that are alive?
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Mar 16, 2017 9:46 AM CST
@sooby. Not this time of year. Silly girl 😁😁😁
There color is same when there alive. Those victims ! Go a bath. In alcohol !😁😁😁!
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Mar 16, 2017 9:59 AM CST
Well you could have taken a picture last year Hilarious! Anyway, just because we're buried in snow - again - after a two day snow storm doesn't mean that someone in California also is Smiling . Alcohol often does change the colour somewhat, especially with caterpillars but perhaps not so much with bugs. I guess they died happy.

Do they look like this one?
http://bugguide.net/node/view/...

Or this one
http://bugguide.net/node/view/...
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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Mar 16, 2017 11:16 AM CST
I'll check those 2 site you sent me out. More info is good 😁!!! I'm sure its the leaf footed bug. The other site you sent said they fead green beans to them in the lab.

SNOW # Did you say SNOW !!!
We got snow in mountains, up the waa zoo zoo ! Dams are open wide. Snow, melting so fast. I have some friends that work at power plant in high country. Snow mobile, to get out ! Thats, when its possible !

Bugs died happy ? You think i wasted my whiskey on them boogers ?
You ! are ! crazed ! Rolling on the floor laughing

Picture of bug alive ?
What the heck was i suspose to do ?
πŸ˜•πŸ˜•πŸ˜•### Oh !!! I know !!!
( Hay there little buggy !!! Smile, for the camera 😁!!! Before i kill your butt ) Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Mar 16, 2017 12:34 PM CST
Our snow was mostly gone but we were on the edge of that storm that hit the north-east the last couple of days so now we have it all back again. Yes you wasted the whiskey. Next time drink the whiskey and put the bugs in a bag in the freezer instead.
Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Mar 16, 2017 1:18 PM CST
@sooby
Sue !!! D'Oh! freezer ideal !!!
GREAT. Ideal ! Thumbs up
I was just wanting to kill the little boogers. There to stinky to smash. Peew wee #😑

Ya got me wrong, about alcohol !!!
Bugs got rubbing alcohol ###

I drank the wiskey !!! Thumbs up
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Name: Philip Becker
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Philipwonel
Mar 16, 2017 1:31 PM CST
@sooby
POW ### Sue 😁 !!!
Iowa university site. Thats the exact little boogers. Thumbs up
Now ! I go back and see what they say about them. Thumbs up
Lovey dubby
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Name: stone
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stone
Mar 17, 2017 6:49 AM CST
I didn't check the pic close enuff.
Agree with leaf foot bugs.

Here's a pic of the nymphs:

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No need to use alcohol.
I knock them off into a bucket of water.
Of course the adults will fly away, so... I have a lid handy.... Lock them in...

Last year, I was finding huge conglomerations on the Yucca flowers... I'd knock 40 + into the bucket at the same time....

After a while the groups got smaller.... And still, their reproduction numbers are so crazy that they still managed to cause plenty of trouble in the tomatoes and corn.

While they did favor the hyacinth beans, I've usually had more problems with the kudzu bugs on the beans than these guys.

Speaking of bugs.... Record cold here yesterday, and still saw huge numbers of butterflies in the garden!
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Mar 17, 2017 11:18 AM CST
Stone. I'm sure it is leaf footed bug. Never found nymps. Just adults. Hard to catch, fly away. I used big 10 inch tweesers to catch them. Weird thing is, i only found them on beans, around 7 in morning.
So i believe they infected my beans.
I read that if you put boards on ground, they gather under at nite, and in morning, you can collect them.
Maybe, they have to be warmed up before they can fly. Shrug!
Im going to try it this year.
Also! A neem oil mix, drench.

No shot at all ! Is a clear miss !
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Mar 17, 2017 12:27 PM CST
When you say 'drench', I visualize you out there with a whole bucket of Neem and WHOOSH Take that bug!

Spraying will work. Smiling If you spray with Neem oil when you first put the plants in your garden, you get a head start on the bugs. You may have to spray once a week to keep them under control.

I don't know that Neem oil will kill squash bugs but it would put a dent in the population. In winter, clean up all the old plants, dead leaves, whatever is in your garden and put that in the garbage can (not the compost pile). A lot of bugs winter over under the dead leaves so have a head start before you even get started.
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Mar 17, 2017 1:07 PM CST
I think he means a soil drench, Daisy, because it is reported to have a more systemic effect than a foliar spray. On the other hand if whooshing them with a bucket of neem as they fly by is the intention, I hope someone is around with a video camera so we can watch it on YouTube Hilarious!
Name: greene
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greene
Mar 17, 2017 1:16 PM CST
Philip also asked about the neem oil drench here:
The thread "Neem oil drench" in Ask a Question forum
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Mar 17, 2017 1:34 PM CST
You arrr ! Great ! Sue ! Rolling on the floor laughing
I'm falling off my chair, laughing.
How did you know ????
That i was going to stand by my garden, all day ! With a bucket of neem oil ! To throw on any bug that came flyin by ? Rolling on the floor laughing
It would be a hecka good video !!! Thumbs up

Soil drench ! Yes !
Bug. Identified, as leaf footed bug.
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