Plant Database forum: Vriesea espinosae

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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Mar 16, 2017 6:04 PM CST
I saw a plant labeled Vriesea espinosae for sale today at Selby Gardens. I just wanted to make sure it isn't a synonym or name change from Tillandsia espinosae. It looks different than the Tillandsia pictures but I thought I'd consult the experts first. Thanks!
Name: Lin
East Central Florida (Zone 9b)

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plantladylin
Mar 16, 2017 6:19 PM CST
Melanie, the Catalogue of Life says it's a synonym for Air Plant (Tillandsia espinosae)
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Name: Lin
East Central Florida (Zone 9b)

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plantladylin
Mar 16, 2017 6:28 PM CST
More photos to compare to the plant at Selby:
http://www.rainforestflora.com...
http://www.tropicalworldusa.co...
https://www.craftyplants.co.uk...
https://www.birdrocktropicals....

This page shows a photo from 2013 listed as Vriesea espinosae: http://fcbs.org/newsletters/FW...
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
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mellielong
Mar 16, 2017 6:31 PM CST
Perhaps it should be added as a synonym or previous name. I forget what we classify things as at the moment. It's been a long day. Hilarious!
Name: Lin
East Central Florida (Zone 9b)

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plantladylin
Mar 16, 2017 7:41 PM CST
Vriesea espinosae is listed as a synonym, I copied and pasted the following from the database:

Botanical names: Tillandsia espinosae Accepted
Vriesea espinosae Synonym
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Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
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mellielong
Mar 16, 2017 7:44 PM CST
Hmm...wasn't there when I searched earlier. But now I can add my pictures. Hurray!
Name: Rob Duval
Mason, New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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robertduval14
Mar 16, 2017 7:49 PM CST

Plants Admin

I added the synonym to the entry earlier today.
Name: Melanie
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Hummingbirder Birds Bee Lover Bookworm
Region: Florida Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Bromeliad Native Plants and Wildflowers Plant Identifier Salvias
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mellielong
Mar 16, 2017 7:56 PM CST
Thanks, Rob! I'm hesitant to propose a change if I don't feel sure. That's why we need experts like you! Thumbs up
Name: Rob Duval
Mason, New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
Region: New Hampshire Vegetable Grower Daylilies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Ideas: Level 1 Tomato Heads
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robertduval14
Mar 17, 2017 6:04 AM CST

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mellielong said:Thanks, Rob! I'm hesitant to propose a change if I don't feel sure. That's why we need experts like you! Thumbs up


If you ever feel the need to check something like that you can use this site...
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

Putting Vriesea espinosae into the search box on the above page will bring you to this...
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

This is where we admins go to for trying to keep the database up to date. In most cases the CoL is our best reference, as it gets updated based on latest research the most often out of all the databases out there. It won't help for cultivar searches, as they are not included, but it does include just about all species level plants. (Side note...there is no such thing as a complete database of all plants in the world, but CoL is striving to be just that).

If you suspect there is an error in our database you can always check it against what CoL says. If you find a discrepancy, you should 100% feel free to propose a change. We'll check it against the CoL ourselves before approving it either way. I would not worry too much about making a mistake...that happens from time to time for all of us and is easily corrected when discovered.


Another side note about synonyms....
We don't always list ALL synonyms that a plant may have, sometimes there are literally a dozen or more and sometimes those synonym names are outdated by more than 100 years. The types of synonyms I feel are important to add are ones like the one you brought to this thread... Plants commonly sold under familiar names rather than the correct name. Off the top of my head a good example of this would be Sedums. Many Sedums got moved to the Genus Hylotelephium, but we still call them Sedums.
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